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Kayra@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 12 hours ago

"If I can't win an argument, I must change my mind." Do you agree with this view?

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"If I can't win an argument, I must change my mind." Do you agree with this view?

Kayra@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 12 hours ago
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  • Ekybio@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    No.

    Source: Tried to argue with an antivaccer…

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      antivaccer

      There are people who deny the existence of vacuums now? Smh my head

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        Yeah, they don’t like anything that sucks more than they do.

        So, I assume you’re a guy (or at least have those “parts”) since you’re smacking two heads…

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      If you are right, why didn’t you win?

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        Because “right” and “good at winning debates” do not necessarily correlate.

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        11 hours ago

        Because you can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into. You’re not arguing with facts, you’re arguing with people, and if you argue with stupid people, they’ll drag you down to their level and best you with experience.

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        Cause being right doesn’t mean you know how to argue with that person. It also doesn’t mean you remember all the relevant facts that would make winning possible.

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        I believe the common analogy is it’s like playing chess with a pigeon:

        You know you’re smarter and do everything right, but they knock all the pieces over, shit on the board, then strut around like they won.

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        Some people don’t respond to reason or facts.

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          10 hours ago

          Yeah like all ML ;)

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            9 hours ago

            🙄

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        What does winning look like?

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          Recognizing you’re wasting valuable oxygen and limited emotional bandwidth on someone who doesn’t want to be reached.

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            Sadly, this seems to make up the vast majority of people.

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              I mean… I’m not much or a people person for that reason. They are fucking exhausting.

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                Same. So I guess that means we’re done here. See ya around. 😁

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        11 hours ago

        You can try it right now, actually.

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