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Cake day: December 23rd, 2023

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  • Haha… yeah I live in the Netherlands. And my city started separately collecting plastics.

    Here’s the kicker: because there is no more plastic in our waste, the energy value of the waste went down. The city sold these waste “rights” to an incineration plant that reclaims heat and energy who now cannot use the waste. So to avoid contractual fines, our city now imports plastic waste from elsewhere in Europe to be mixed in with the waste and then incinerated.

    Well fuck me!

    • This is more expensive for the city (separate bins, separate collection, separate processing, buying plastics from elsewhere and getting it here)
    • All the extra transport and shipping movements is worse for the environment.
    • I’m stuck with an extra fucking bin, and with both a greens bin and the rest bin that are collected once every 3 weeks instead of 2… stinking up the place even worse.

    But I’m sure they meant well.






  • Company sued government for not adhering to contract.

    The moral outrage should be at the people involved in the contract negotiations for the government and the fucker who ended up signing said contract. That group of persons and their entire genepool should be made to fill the vacant spots.

    We had something a little similar here. Local government had a contract with an incineration company for trash. Then we started separating our trash more for recycling. And the local government is now BUYING trash from Italy and trucking it here to be incinerated because that is cheaper than the fines in the contract.



  • I think I responded to the tone and then you see premise that insinuated that colonial oppressors are just using their advantage to once again oppress the poor indigenous people of wherever in yet another way. Which I don’t agree with.

    The concept of the fediverse seems to be that admins host instances and are pretty welcoming to new communities… So if someone from I dunno Togo would setup a lomé or togo-politics community it would be supported. Meaning anyone from anywhere can use the infra provided to setup and moderate their communities.

    If anything the system allows people more advantaged with resources (time, money, know how) to provide an open space that can be used by everyone (within reason). Without being beholden to big tech and her hidden profit driven agenda.

    I would be more concerned about accessibility and usability from the perspective of a lot of people. As many countries that are still developing have limited time and access. And I don’t know if the current state of the fediverse in it’s development is of much help.

    I’llIncreasing the usability of the whole ecosystem with improved clients, moderation tools etc (the stuff that fediverse users are requesting, and those devs are working on) will help.

    Once it is mature, more will come. And like with tech, financed by early adopters this seems similar.

    In the mean time I see people from all over the globe post stuff about many things, including national interest stuff that would otherwise have passed me by.

    And I don’t see stuff posted in languages I don’t comprehend because my profile filteres them out. I don’t know if there are any Swahili/Papiamento/Mandarin/Indonesian posts on lemmy, but Lemmy supports many languages so that might be a thing.

    Lastly the whole us vs them (colonial powers, oppressors etc etc) might be applicable to a lot of the world, however, garnering support for a cause by making accusations against the fediverse and the current generation of hosts and users does not help. I would advise a more constructive stance in general. If you see people actually being as you describe call them out and tell it like it is by all means, but this was not the way to get the ball rolling.

    I’d probably gone with something like: the fediverse is growing, how can we help it develop in a direction better serving people in developing countries. To get them out from under the power hold and monopolies of the big tech conglomerates. … or something.

    In that case I would have stuck with an answer like above… we need to foster and nurture it’s growth so it becomes a good alternative and the people will come. Plus… you know… ask people from these countries or maybe even get devs from there involved using stuff like patreon. Getting feedback from people not using your product… and finding out why they don’t is hard.

    But Lemmy for example already did a solid by making sure the platform supports a looooot or languages “out of the box”.

    Hope that’s better :).

    For the record, I did not downvotes your reply as it deserves an actual response.




  • Little dictators that have too much prominence and visibility are the threats. If a specific start point gets too prominent a lot of users could be redirected from good instances because of the little tyrants that run such a jump on point. Granted it can be easily routes around by offering alternative entry points, but a certain amount of prominence will impact not so Tech savvy users.

    And in your assumption you have shown you already understand the fediverse more than a lot of people ever will. They will just join an instance and browse /ALL.