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  • I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m just saying it’s not a worthwhile risk when both hockey players have full gear vs. a ref with minimal gear.

    This sounds reasonable, but no. Fights are successfully broken up all the time by the officials. It has gotten really irritating in the last 10 years how quickly they will jump in and separate players. Sometimes they will even jump in too soon, which results in a guy being held by an official but still getting punched by his opponent.

    If you are confused by one of my other comments where I say “referees will never break up fights” it’s because the refs don’t break up fights, but the linesmen do. Refs: guys in striped shirts with an orange armband, linesmen: guys in striped shirts without.

    Also everyone saying that the league wants more fighting clearly doesn’t follow the NHL. The NHL has been steadily introducing rules over the last decade specifically to decrease the amount of fighting because they are wary of a similar CTE (chronic traumatic encephaly, aka brain damage) controversy that has taken root in the NFL and the WWE and they are afraid of getting their asses sued into the ground.


  • One team ends up a player (or two) down, and that’s when a lot fo the scoring happens. Ergo, you fight and you are more likely to lose.

    FWIW, this is also why I’m not a hockey fan…

    I think you have a misconception about the rules. Hopefully if I clear this up, you may give hockey another shot.

    One team ends up a player (or two) down, and that’s when a lot fo the scoring happens

    True. In hockey this is called a power play. It’s a well known fact about hockey that most of the scoring in a game happens during the power play. Power plays are a common occurrence in every game as a result of standard penalties (ie not fighting) such as high sticking (hitting a player above the shoulders with your stick), hooking (using your stick to ‘hook’ a player to try and slow them down), slashing (using your stick to whack someone, usually across the hands), etc.

    Ergo, you fight and you are more likely to lose.

    False. When players fight, they are given equal concurrent penalties. Both of their teams remain at even strength and there is no power play.


  • Well, you said it yourself, the NHL is not the NBA lol.

    Context for why they fought in this game:

    The red white and blue team is the New York Rangers. The red white and black team is the New Jersey Devils. They are indeed long time divisional rivals. The hatred is real. Also for context, the last time these two teams played, a Rangers player injured a Devils player with a nasty hit; he was challenged to a fight then but refused. So the tension had already built up.

    Context for why they were allowed to fight:

    Fighting has always been allowed in hockey. Big line brawls like this used to be more common even into the 2000s. They have become rare starting in the 2010s when the NHL meta shifted from “have dedicated face punchers fill out the bottom of the roster because they are scary to play against” to the new meta of “have skilled players even at the bottom of the roster because winning games is more important.”

    If you’re wondering why the officials don’t break them up immediately, it’s a matter of practicality. There are only 4 on ice officials and there 10 angry dudes punching each other. Best to let them tire themselves out before intervening. Usually they will reach a point where they stop on their own. Also, the referees never break up scrums or fights even if there are only 2-3 guys fighting - this is so they can accurately pay attention to all of the infractions and make the proper penalty calls after it is all settled.