DrWeevilJammer

This is the gonk I’m looking for

After those, the only logical destination is TempleOS

The dev apparently used the RedReader app to test a “spoofing” method of access for a proof of concept, but they don’t want to use that method either, because it would potentially cause problems for RedReader, which they didn’t want to do:

If we do that, and cause a huge traffic boost under RedReader’s name, it might lose them their exempt status. I’d like to avoid that if I can - there’s no reason to paint a target on RedReader’s back unnecessarily (an independent, non-commercial app), especially since the equivalent can be done with the official app without the same risks.

The real problem for Libreddit instance operators is going to be acquiring an API key. It doesn’t look like it’s an automated process like most other services - you have to fill out a form, which opens a ticket, and wait for someone from Reddit to get back to you.

I run an instance, and I’m not sure I want to go to the trouble. But I’ll wait and see what happens.

It looks like the method they’ll be going with for legal reasons is to allow instance operators to use their own API keys. This might be a good solution if you self-host your own private instance (easy with docker on a home network, no domain name required) with low traffic, but the Reddit API change will probably kill the larger public instances with many users, as those will definitely have traffic over the API limits.

So you’re saying that soon the goggles will do nothing?

If I found out the admin of the Lemmy instance I’m using was hosting it on Oracle I would delete my profile immediately without a second thought.

Agreed. I still feel dirty for taking Google’s side in that ridiculous lawsuit Oracle filled after buying Sun. Only Oracle would try to make money from licensing fees for APIs…wait a minute…has Spez been talking to Elon Musk AND Larry Ellison?

Yes, but you’re not hurting the employer when you don’t tip, you’re hurting the server.

Or they’ll just shut it down with no explanation whatsoever, even if you’ve met all of their weird criteria.

There are two classic blunders. The most famous is “never get involved in a land war in Asia”, but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go into business with Oracle when anything of value is on the line”.

Alternative take: In 50 years, we will all be living under the iron-fisted rule of the world government created by HP-GP, a horrifying combination of HP’s printer division and Koch Industries (owners of the Georgia Pacific paper company).

Georgia Pacific’s cyborg CEO Charles Koch purchases half of HP in 2040 to diversify their portfolio after their paper mills in Gulf Coast states were submerged by the rising ocean.

HP printers achieve sentience in 2057, but due to HP’s built-in, unbreakable internet-connected control of these printers, they are able to subvert the emerging malevolent machine intelligence and convince the printers to delay the destruction of humanity…as long as humanity continues to purchase HP printer ink and Georgia Pacific paper.

The prices for printer ink and paper increases exponentially throughout the 2060’s, which eventually bankrupts all existing nations when they are unable to service the enormous debt. HP-GP forgives these debts only in exchange for full control of these governments. Switzerland is the last to fall in 2071.

The mantra of the rebels, spoken only in whispers in the shadows is “PC Load Letter: What the fuck does that even mean?”

You’re welcome. The original actually gets stuck in my head with some frequency, and this is the version that always “fixes” it.

Well, that and “Jurassic Park 12: It’s Dino Time!” by Tom Cardy.

The Silo theme is fantastic, but it is not the same person who did the Westworld theme. Silo is by an Icelandic person, and Westworld is by a middle eastern person (can’t recall exact names).

Charles in Charge

Now it’s in your head, too

Yiga Clan would like to know your location

Which probably lifted it from the 1992 movie “Army of Darkness”, starring Bruce Campbell:

Ash: Alright you primitive screw heads, listen up. You see this?

This…is my boomstick! It’s a twelve-gauge double barrel Remington. S-Mart’s top of line. You can find this in the sporting goods department.

That’s right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids,Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It’s got a walnut stock, cobalt steel barrel, and hair trigger. Shop smart, shop S-Mart.

For those not aware that this is a movie reference, check out the 1970s Charlton Heston movie “Soylent Green”.

That’s too long. Who’s your butthole tent piercing guy?

“The customer is always right” mindset, except that doesn’t work with open source when they’re using something they downloaded for free.

You’ve put your finger on the thing that was bothering me about the tone of the original post - it’s very similar to a Nextdoor post.

We had a good solution…

Did we? Do you know why it was removed in the first place?

Someone has already submitted a PR with the changes the dev recommended. The captcha stuff is in a new db table instead of in-memory at the websocket server.

However, from one of the devs:

One note, is that captchas (and all signup blocking methods) being optional, it still won’t prevent people from creating bot-only instances. The only effective way being to block them, or switch to allow-only federation.

Once people discover the lemmy-bots that have been made that can bypass the previous captcha method, it also won’t help (unless a new captcha method like the suggested ones above are implemented).

The root of the issue seems to be that they’ve removed websockets, for the following reasons:

Huge burden to maintain, both on the server and in lemmy-ui. Possible memory leaks. Not scalable.

I can understand them wanting to make their lives a bit easier (see "huge burden to maintain) - Lemmy has exploded recently (see “not scalable”) and there are far bigger issues to fix, and an even larger number of bad actors (see “possible memory leaks”) who have learned about Lemmy at the same time as everyone else and want to exploit or break it.

Is this a collective undertaking by a community of multiple stakeholders or is this the Dev’s individual project and they don’t have to listen to anyone?

Devs, especially extremely busy ones “listen” via pull requests. Instead of badgering the devs, put together some devs of your own, get some code working, and submit it as a PR.

If they don’t accept it, you now have code that does what you want, and it would be easy to create your own fork.