DroneRights [it/its]

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  • You tried to substantiate your claim that the question whether or not something is a disability depends on (social) context with mentioning that the “flaw” that Michael Phelps has supposedly aided him in being a better swimmer.

    No I didn’t. You’ve got it all backwards. I didn’t say being double jointed is a flaw, I said being single jointed is a flaw. You didn’t understand the hypothetical. You’re so used to hearing people say deviations are disabilities, your brain filtered it out when I proposed that being normal is a disability. That’s why I think you’re worse than me at understanding hypotheticals. But the conclusion that being normal is a disability is precisely what your definition leads to. Which is why I think you don’t agree with your own definition.





  • Also, being double jointed is not considered a disability.

    Nobody thinks being double jointed is a disability. You misunderstood the point I was making. So I’ll make it in clearer terms:

    I can understand complex hypotheticals and you can’t. Does that make you disabled, because you can’t participate in this conversation as my equal? Or does the fact you’re not much worse at it than the average person make you normal, and therefore not disabled? Are we measuring disability against the average person, or against the most capable person in the room? Or the most capable person in the world, for that matter? Are you intellectually disabled by the fact that someone better at reasoning than you exists?

    I wanted to ask this question using Michael Phelps as an example instead of myself, but you didn’t understand, so it’s clear I need to make the situation more relatable for your benefit. That’s why I ask a more personal version of the question. Are you disabled because of my existence?




  • A disability for intrinsic reasons would be something like paraplegia or deafness. There is no social relativity to whether people with these conditions can do less things. But whether something is intrinsically wrong with that person is up to their own judgement. They are free to set their own standard in that case, and determine whether they really should be able to walk or hear, just as I’m free to determine whether I really should be able to make eye contact or process speech. (It is my opinion that the loudness of public spaces is unnatural and unjust, and that people need to fucking speak clearly instead of being lazy and making me do the work of listening closely)

    But I think you’ve ignored my point. Which is that I don’t want to be cured of my mind’s nature, but I do want to be free of a society that disables autistic people. My question to you is, do I want to be cured? Is social acceptance and accommodation a cure?




  • If magic exists to eliminate all disabilities, then there should be no smart, rich people with disabilities in your world

    I disagree. I know plenty of smart people with disabilities who wouldn’t take a cure if it was possible. Most of them are autistic. Autism is a disability in a world that doesn’t accommodate it, but it doesn’t have to be. It’s a disability politically, not intrinsically. And deafness is pretty undeniably a disability, but I’ve read about deaf people not wanting to join in on hearing society because they think the deaf community is better.

    This might sound hard for you to understand if you’re fully abled, so I’ll put it in terms you can understand. Imagine if tomorrow scientists invented a cheap, painless procedure to install a third arm in your chest. Everyone’s getting them because they’re so useful, and clothing stores are quickly switching to shirts with three arm holes. It’s getting hard to find shirts with only two arm holes, in fact. Even if everyone you knew said they preferred having three arms, would you get one?