At this point what they learn in business schools is the full bestiary of legal and illegal tricks and scams you can use to extract money from us cattle and contribute as little as possible to the upkeep :(

Haha, was it the endless cliff next to the gun island? Been there lmao

Subnautica…when I was so immersed that I went too deep…didn’t have enough time to return to the surface to breathe…and then looked up in anguish and saw that dreaded refraction “circle” hundreds of meters above you… THE DEEP HAS YOU, THERE IS NO ESCAPE

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It’s about return on energy. Fossil fuels return 20x what you invest it’s essentially free energy.

(edit: roughly, this translates to how many people are free to do things with the work of one, if every person lives alone, it’s 1, if each person has a personal slave/robot, it’s around 2, we want to stay well above 2. Modern society has 19 people doing all sorts of non-survival things for each one farming and collecting resources because fossil is so “cheap”)

Renewables can reach 5-10 at best, which is not so bad (medieval was around 1.3, pre-industrial with slavery was around 1.8), so you can do it, but it will have to reshape society, which will be fine, if we know what we’re doing or can at least imagine what we are aiming for to avoid disappointment. It’s hard to be utopian going backwards.

This whole debate started with carbon footprints and carbon pricong, because I believe that creating a market can help the less virtuous among us to use their greed to help solve the problem of public consent in a consumerist society without devolving into a dictatorship.

But yea, let’s aim for that energy return of say… 7 and try to imagine what such a society would look like. A return to slower shipping by sail again…more solar boilers for all hot water…solar desalination…peak-solar hydrogen for fertilizers and airplanes…more compact cities with mass transit and bikes, lots of working from home, more fixing things DIY…a return from cities to the countryside and decentralisation would help, but only if those communities were more self-sustained and local, with 2x more power to farming, mining and wind/solar communities (meaning potentially smaller countries)…now I could describe all the potential setbacks of all of those points, but I won’t, because this is solarpunk and we need more imagining of what things are going to be like when we succeed…not so much the year 500 :)

No, they mean the Haber process that requires energy-intensive (can mass-solar do it?) hydrogen to convert nitrogen back into ammonia.

Heya fellow raccoon, raccoon Bible is much better than the one compiled by Roman bishops in 325AD in Nicea e.g. “let there be trash for all” and “give to racoons what belongs to the raccoons” :D

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Ok, fine, I hadn’t considered that and it’s a factor. None of the demographically declining countries like Italy, Japan, Portugal is doing great in terms of growth…but they don’t have deflation either. You also have the productivity growth factor into account with automation (meaning each citizen produces more but also uses more resources)

Sure, any economy can experience deflation if you have more goods chasing the same amount of currency, but the point is that most economies usually print money, that causes inflation (moderately that mimics around 2% (approx. linear resource growth) and 4% (rent extraction). Interest rates influence market behaviour that causes inflation but do not determine inflation.

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Probably a typo, but currency is *inflationary, cryptocurrency is *deflationary, that’s why it’s not for spending “now” (e.g. hodlbros)

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And one of the best parts of online discussions is that they are not biased by how you look, just what you write :)

What are lurkers for if there is no advertising?

Man, I too would like to have a community gathering place, but the local church is super elitist and the priest is a conservative dickhead, so while I would have imagined that churches would not be like that, many alienate potential community members :/

It was the worldnews@lemmy.ml but I’m not sure where it is because lemmy.ml does not seem to exist.

Added context: the removed comment is from a hexbear, which I find even more ironic, because it was one of the more level-headed ones :)

One of the advantages of lemmy is the transparent modlog, where I see a) lots of thankless work mods perform I assume for free b) 99.99% bullshit that is not constructive in a public forum. I’m adjusting my expectations about the false positive removal rate considering how much useless comments get through.

How much of that carbon is emitted Vs embedded in the steel matrix? 50%?