NoneOfUrBusiness

Will Hamas stop if Isreal does?

If Israel stops its apartheid and ethnic cleansing? Certainly.

Amazing. Depressing, but amazing.

car makers just jack up their prices so they make more off the subsidy

Exactly.

Really we should be subsidizing EVs from our own manufacturers.

You are. Still not doing much to corporate greed.

This would be slightly more believable if Rabin wasn’t assassinated and Netanyahu didn’t basically tear up the Oslo accords.

Yeah fair enough.

Do I really need to explain the similarity between Hamas and the IRA?

Let me just tell you, you’d have been on the wrong side of history during the Troubles.

Now that aside, if you think there’s only one terrorist organization involved in the current war you need to rethink, well, everything about the conflict, because everything Hamas does Israel does times 10 to 100.

I don’t agree with “while isolated rapes may have taken place, there was insufficient evidence to support allegations that rape had been ‘widespread and systematic’.”

I mean it turned that that there was no widespread and systematic rape no?

Uh… That’s not how bias works.

They are the remnants of BBC Middle East,

Remnants? What happened to them?

I mean they’re not gonna say bad shit about Qatar, but other than that they’re pretty good.

I don’t think Likud and IDF leaders care too much about the wellbeing of the hostages, and their behavior pretty clearly reflects that.

They don’t, but the Israeli public does. This will matter if a Gaza remains after the war ends.

So if Hamas wants to maximize their bargaining power they should be seeking to undermine the public narratives around the necessity of the war.

Honestly, nobody who doesn’t already support Palestine will change their position because they released the 30 or so hostages that are still alive. It’ll just be called a move for clout, which won’t be too far from the truth. Also during post-war negotiation what’s important won’t be clout with the international community; that’s more of a long-term thing. What they will need then is negotiating power with Israel. Maybe it’ll be different if the international community actually takes an active role in negotiations, but we both know that’s not happening.

We do, an infinitely small amount. Remember you gotta divide by c².

Mostly because that’s impossible. Ideally you want small inflation so it’s a bad idea to just leave money around, but either way 0% inflation is about as impossible as 0.4999% inflation.

Man’s forgetting the second law of thermodynamics: The house entropy always wins.

Would you say Hamas isn’t attempting to eradicate Israelis when convenient?

Hamas is a much more pragmatic organization than this. They were like that for a while, but stopped somewhere between 2000 and 2006. They also recently came out and said they’d lay down their arms and become a political party if a two-state solution is enforced. Now whether they mean it aside (I think they should be cautiously believed here) that’s not the rhetoric of someone going for an eradication campaign.

I mean they kidnapped civilians and refuse to release them.

This is a textbook case of don’t blame the player, blame the game. Whatever little of Gaza’s dignity Hamas will be able to preserve after the war will depend on the hostages. While it sucks for them it’d suck worse if after this is all over Israel starts “resettling” Gaza or continues their starvation campaign.

I don’t think anyone is trying to imply that all Israelis support what their government is doing, but 80% (including 88% of Israeli Jews, which are the main demographic we’re looking at here) is a very damning number. Related: I don’t have the total number for this one, but the number of Israeli Jews who believe Israel is using too little or an appropriate amount of firepower is 94%. Again not all of them, but these are pretty damning numbers and dispel the idea that there’s real domestic opposition to what’s going on in Gaza.

Considering that most of the casualties were civilian

66%, even including counting crossfire, the involvement of other less trained forces (including random Gazans who happened to enter through the hole Hamas opened) and Israeli friendly fire (the latter is not insignificant; there were multiple proven cases of Israel choosing to kill Hamas fighters along with hostages instead of letting them return to Gaza). Not denying the atrocities that Hamas actually committed, but given these factors 66% isn’t indicative of any deliberate targeting.

It is reqlly hard to believe any Hamas leader in that regard, once you see who was killed and how.

What I’m trying to say is: Hamas’s official stance is that Israeli civilians aren’t valid targets. If they do consider all Israeli civilians targets (which considering how pragmatic Hamas generally is as an organization would make absolutely no sense) they’re definitely not saying it out loud. They said they’ll repeat 7/10 against Israel, the political entity, not that they’d keep killing civilians, is what I’m saying.