Continuing the war would lead to the “moral degradation of both parties to the conflict” as propaganda and the daily murder of hundreds of citizens “become commonplace”
This “good russian” can fuck right off. There is no torture of POWs (such as castrations done by the russians) or mass scale summary executions of civilians by Ukraine.
What a typical russian “liberal”.
This is exactly how russia works.
Ivashov is just another imperialist russian.
Those “86%” Russian numbers were always plucked out of polling manipulation, trick questions, and carefully curated focus groups
This is actually not true. An overwhelming majority of russians are supportive of chauvinism and imperialism (and a strong majority are genocidal imperialists). This is a fact.
Believe it or not there are ways to evaluate preference falsification, you can read the papers (methodology, results and analysis) yourself.
Baseline research on support for the fullscale invasion:
https://www.levada.ru/en/2024/05/17/conflict-with-ukraine-assesments-for-march-2024/
The level of support for the Russian armed forces has not changed significantly since the beginning of the conflict – the majority of respondents (76%) support the actions of Russian troops in Ukraine, including 48% “definitely support” and another 28% “rather support” the action of Russian army. 16% are against.
Research with preference falsification adjustments with respect to support for the full scale invasion:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20531680221108328
when asked directly, 71% of respondents support [full scale invasion of Ukraine], while this share drops to 61% when using the list experiment
Baseline support for annexation of Crimea:
https://www.levada.ru/en/2021/05/19/crimea-3/
The vast majority of Russians (86%) consistently support the accession of Crimea to Russia – this indicator has fluctuated slightly since 2014. 9% do not support the accession.
Research with preference falsification adjustments with respect to support for annexation of Crimea:
https://www.jiia.or.jp/en/column/2022/09/russia-fy2022-01.html
Using the list-experiment technique, Timothy Frye and others showed that Putin’s approval rating after the annexation of Crimea was actually high, at around 80%. In their study, they made a list of famous Russian politicians and had respondents answer how many of these politicians they supported. They then estimated Putin’s approval rating by adding the name “Putin” to the list for only one group[*]3 and thus concluded that the high approval ratings after the annexation of Crimea were not very different from the findings of opinion pollsters.
A high level overview of russian support for the invasion of Ukraine (a summary, but with links to relevant research, albeit some sources will be in russian):
Younger people still support the war in high numbers, though their support is lower than that of the older generation: 75–80 percent of people fifty-five and older support the Russian army’s actions in Ukraine, while 61 percent of young respondents in Levada polls share this sentiment.
And this is just Ukraine, even the allegedly liberal russian “opposition” openly supports the occupation of Ichkeria and sees nothing wrong with mass scale killing of civilians committed by the russians in the 90s and 2000s.
I was referring to results accounting for preference falsification:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/52675124/22959080 (post a bit higher in this thread).
These are not russian statistics.
Preference falsification refers to people lying due to the sensitivity of the topic.
The funny thing is that the level of preference falsification (with respect to Crimea specifically) was found to be so low that it was within the margin of error (i.e. 85% was seen as a valid result because preference falsification was too insignificant too evaluate). That’s damning for russian society.
FWIW, support for the full scale invasion saw a preference falsification level of 10%; therefore we go from 75% to 65% support for the full scale invasion of Ukraine. That being said the authors stated that they believe the 65% figure is likely an underestimate.
The overwhelming majority of russians still support invading Ukraine and annexing our territories.
I can share multiple papers (and even counter arguments) on this topic if you want.
A bit too optimistic, the average russian isn’t willing to do anything and buys into putin’s chauvinist worldview (85% of russian support the annexation of Crimea even with adjustments for preference falsification).
I think you’re correct at a high level, but there is also the medium-term and long-term impact of not honouring treaties which is less predictable and makes the calculation around not honouring a treaty less straightforward (even if in the immediate sense the drawbacks are minimal).
WW1/WW2 also had their fair of treaty violations. Sudetenland annexation is an early example. Nazi Germany breaking the Molotov–Ribbentrop to split up Europe with the russians is perhaps a better known example. Italy was also supposed to join the central power in WW1 as per their treaty examples.
While long term impacts are always difficult to quantify by definition, they do have impact on how people think (especially people in power).
This is to be expected, Venezuela is not a strategic priority for either russia or China.
Not to mention that a US invasion of Venezuela would provide a good propaganda win for Russia and China particularly in the “global south” where at least the leadership of countries like Brazil and South Africa are openly supportive of russian genocidal imperialism.
Tankie source!
The scum that operates that website needs to be deported to russia (after having their citizenship cancelled).
I agree on all counts.
I am just pointing out that working for Press TV is just as bad what Google does.
While I wouldn’t trust Google on anything, the “journalist” cited in this article worked for Iranian foreign propaganda outlet Press TV. Even though what Google did was wrong, that’s a massive red flag. Working for Press TV is no different than Google working for the American far right oligarch regime.
Tankie / red fash source!
If workers went on strike in China, Russia or Venezuela they would be calling it a CIA op!
Funny, to see a member of the corrupt US oligarchy talk about corruption in other countries.
Click the “Anti-Imperialism” section.
Note the “US-NATO Conflict with Russia over Ukraine” subheading and the type of “articles” that are posted there.
One example:
Eighty years after the unprecedented crimes of the Wehrmacht and Hitlerite fascism, the ruling class is once again pursuing a massive rearmament program that breaks with all post-war restrictions and is systematically preparing Germany for a third world war—with Russia as its main target.
Note how there is zero real criticism of russia or China.
WSWS is a tankie / red fash shithole.
Don’t promote tankie sources, they don’t really care about the working class. Notice how the article excludes China (or say Cuba or Venezuela).
This is a tankie source.
Ok, I didn’t know that.
Why the hell was Israel allowed to participate? It’s not like there is any sort of ecoconomic loss from kicking Israel out.
That ship has sailed a long time ago. I lived in russia in the 90s and 2000s (I speak fluent russian, still have a mild moscow accent that people bring up if I am not speaking English/Ukrainian). It’s very clear that putin is a symptom and the cause is russian society (not every single person of course, but the overwhelming majority).
Forget about Ukraine for a second. If one truly want change in russian society, one has to look at the “results” shown by the russian opposition in the last ~25 years. Even with implicit support of imperialism (не бутерброд с колбасой), it has been a comical failure in every way imaginable.
Yeremeyev is just doing the same fucking thing. Yeremeyev (or whoever) wants change? Then raise at least 50 battalions of russian troops to join RVC/РДК. Anything less than that is either childishly naive or russian “liberal” bullshit that in reality is a lite form of imperialism (why choose a putin lite regime when you can have the real thing?).