I’m pretty sure the both sides take is being lifted directly from the US politics shit show and is probably an early fall back position to diffuse argument and lessen culpability in the aftermath of war crimes. I’m with you though, there’s a lot of crocks in relatively proximity.
Oh and on Ukraine. No? Well, maybe Alex Jones?
Many would say that stateless socialism is the premise of Anarchism. Stateless largely refers to organizing hierarchies horizontally over vertically, and this is due to the overarching critique that vertical hierarchies result in corruption and rank inequality. Check out Communalism and the works of Murray Bookchin if you’d like to know more. There’s also a fair amount of talk about “pure democracy/direct democracy” in these circles and personally I think that Digital Direct Democracy could be the cure for the cancer in all the worlds modern democracies, if it ever takes off somewhere.