#notallboomers

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People have run the numbers on this - Bezos is far richer than even the greediest dragons sitting atop their mountains of gold.

Righting the policy wrongs is the first step, the easier step and the one they’re faltering on - you can’t begin to fix the damage the bad policies have done if you don’t deal with the bad policies doing the damage first.

If you think they’re done kind of complex dance, I’m comfortable saying that’s a you issue, my dude.

I’m glad you seem to agree with what I’ve been saying from the outset, but have been too caught up in linguistic revisionism to notice - scroll up.

Standard Democrat fare - they’ll perpetuate the worst of the GOP nonsense, fix some of it, and generally be less terrible. Also see: Gitmo.

…but as long as the alternative is the GOP, who will make everything far worse far faster (to the point that they’re likely to end the moribund US democracy next term), you need to get out and vote for them up and down the ballot.

Yeah - OK, you’re operating under your own definition of creation that happens to align with whatever is convenient for your narrative. I’ll stick with the dictionary, thanks.

From the outset, my primary concern has been the legislation and EOs that do the damage - our “representatives” enact them, and they do the damage. You need to start with the rollbacks of the things doing the damage before you fix the damage. This isn’t complex.

I’m opposed to genocide - I sure as hell hope you agree with that - I’m also vote blue no matter who as long as the alternative is spewing openly Nazi rhetoric like a unified Reich and immigrants polluting the blood of the nation.

Yes - it’s harder to reunite kids with their parents than it is to separate them - I’m not arguing that - I’m saying that not every bad thing the GOP does is an act of destruction - like the creation of the executive orders Biden destroyed, like the creation of the policies that led to the separation of those children from their parents. Destroying bad policy or bad EOs isn’t inherently harder than creating them - repairing the damage they do is the hard part, but you don’t get to do that until you fix the bad policy/EO. This is the part where the Democrats have made some progress, are world better than the GOP, but remain a disappointment.

You’re boiling down everything that the GOP does to destruction, and that simply isn’t the case as I’ve already demonstrated. As long as you insist on ramming those square pegs into such an over-simplistic round hole view of the world, discarding any clear, but inconvenient fact, you’ll fail to understand the world, and any conclusions you draw will continue to be utterly worthless.

Now I’ll stand aside and make room for you to stupidly/dishonestly pretend that destroying bad EOs (which is exactly as easy as creating them) is “bull crap”, and that I’ve said the GOP creating bad things is somehow good because you imagine creating things is inherently good, and only something the Democrats do.

Fuck me - I’m honestly ashamed to share a political tent with such a moron, but better you than the Nazis, I suppose.

A list of Trump’s executive orders that Biden rolled back is a weirdo list of random things?

That seems like a transparently stupid thing to say - I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, stand back and let you explain that one.

It can’t be that you think that because some things are easy to undo, all things are, and that because my examples don’t fit that narrative, you dismiss them in a fog of cognitive dissonance.

You’re using the vaguest possible language and imagining you’re profound, then dismissing the example I gave because it disagrees with your narrative by point to burning villages as though that means anything?

I gave the more specific example of destroying Republican legislation, and either you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that, or too stupid to understand. Why be like this?

I’ll be more specific and point to 4 executive orders from Trump that Biden destroyed, and ask you to explain precisely what the fuck you think you’re talking about?

• Preventing Online Censorship

• Protecting American Monuments, Memorials, and Statues and Combating Recent Criminal Violence

• Building and Rebuilding Monuments to American Heroes

• Rebranding United States Foreign Assistance to Advance American Influence’

Try to refrain from smugly gesturing at vagueries - you look silly enough as is.

You mean like destroying the GOP’s atrocious policies, right? No? Then you might need to explain yourself, friend.

Based on the downvotes, it seems we’re indifferent about the principles underpinning the constitution and the entire legal system, the right to a speedy trial and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment.

Most of this wasn’t tested in those legal cases - to my knowledge, they didn’t even meaningfully challenge the fact that these detainees were being held by the US on foreign soil to transparently and dishonestly skirt those protections.

The irony.

Would you mind giving a quick explanation of your understanding the rule of law and its relevance to the constitution and US legal system?

Bonus points for extending this explanation to the 5th-8th amendment (particularly 6 and 8).

I’d say the shining city on the hill should have made restoring the rule of law a higher priority, but that’s just my opinion.

It seems the GOP can make things plenty worse in a hell of a hurry, but when it comes to righting the wrongs, it’s all too hard. The Democrat inclination toward civility politics and the status quo over basics like protecting the rule of law and the democracy will be the death of us.

He rolled back changes to the endangered species protections earlier this year for one.

You’re also neglecting to mention that they’re FAR less prone than the GOP to implement horrific, anti-democratic, regressive, fascistic policies than the GOP. While the Democrats are bad, the GOP is horrific - and when there’s only 2 available options and this much of a spread between them, you need to vote to slow the decline.

Yep - there’s no shortage of examples - this is why I point to it as the unfortunate norm.

I agree with the sentiment in the sense that they have shared class interests, but the GOP wants, and will institute massive, sweeping change for the worse as the Dems deliver a mixed bag in broad defence of the status quo that benefits them.

When the alternative is having those loved ones denied medical care, locked up, or shuffled off to the camps, yes.

You don’t have to be happy about it, but you do have to keep the unabashed fascists out of power. There’s 1,458 other days in the election cycle to convince, cajole and bully the Democrats into being less bad.

Yes - the Republicans instituted the bad thing, the Democrats perpetuated it. Obama had the White House , House , and Senate and didn’t close Gitmo as promised.

I’m in favour of Biden acting like a dictator if it’s to do things like restore the rule of law, stop torture, and right wrongs like separating kids from their families for their entire childhood. The kinds of consequences that make dictatorships bad. What’s the value of proceduralism if it not just fails to correct, but actively delivers those outcomes?

Standard Democrat fare - they’ll perpetuate the worst of the GOP nonsense, fix some of it, and generally be less terrible. Also see: Gitmo.

…but as long as the alternative is the GOP, who will make everything far worse far faster (to the point that they’re likely to end the moribund US democracy next term), you need to get out and vote for them up and down the ballot.

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