Time travel, evidently.

They’re were a lot of men who insisted on immediate medical attention who got told that their partners had tried that and absolutely nothing would come of it.

Article points out that having a moral issue over porn is a much, much stronger prediction of perceiving problems than levels of use. The headline writer and introduction conclude that porn addiction isn’t real, but I think the detail of the article suggests more that behaviour only really gets properly out of control in the presence of self-disapproval.

I think a more consistent summary for that content is “Mainly only religious people seek help from psychologists for what they perceive as porn addiction, but overwhelmingly their behaviour doesn’t fit the professional thresholds for addiction”.

Some people did a thing with a specially configured tens machine where the woman would turn it the levels up and up until it was at the level of their normal period pain and then the man would go through the same levels stages and be gasping and writhing before it got there.

Turns out men have been massively underestimating period pain for centuries.

That said, some women experienced far, far higher levels than normal and were encouraged to take that data to a non-dismissive healthcare professional.

I think she would be mortified if she knew I knew.

I think I can smell progesterone, in some women, and in some months (far more than others/other times). Being male, this is absolutely is not something I can collect a lot of data on very quickly, and I don’t know whether the strength or clarity for me correlates with women who have higher levels than normal, but I do know it correlates really well with this chart in terms of timing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Estradiol_and_progesterone_%25_changes_across_the_menstrual_cycle.tif

So often I know that it’s a week and a half before your period, and I know what that means, but I promise you that I have never ever used this knowledge, partly because I’m pretty shy, but not even with my wife (who doesn’t know I can tell) when we were aiming for pregnancies, because that was a very busy time indeed in that arena and I saw no reason to reduce that in any way whatsoever.

I haven’t been on reddit for a long time. When you say “offered stock options”, do you mean they offered you the opportunity to invest in stock, or discounted stock, or free stock?

Wow, you’re so edgey.

I worry that your point is even worse than I thought.

You and I completely and utterly disagree.

I think you’re quite a few decades out of date with that opinion. The Chinese government is very worried about population decline now.

The nasty bit was telling a mother she has to have an abortion against her will.

China now has the opposite problem of a declining population, which causes problems because of the working age population is small compared to the older population, you end up running out of money so you either have to tax more heavily or abandon older folks to their fate without helping them.

The declining population problem is very common in wealthier countries.

And lower population means fewer jobs. The number of jobs that need doing in a country doesn’t depend on the area of the land, it depends on the population size. The problems come when governments don’t build infrastructure. If you don’t build schools and hospitals and suchlike, three are fewer jobs in construction and less money going into the local economy, and schools and hospitals get crowded and do a worse job.

Where does the Dizzy Devil Ducky bit come from?

It’s not just me you’re disagreeing with.

Skavau is up and down the thread arguing with people who didn’t like the spam and is the mod of the new community. “Trying to help you understand” simply isn’t how they’re behaving.

Still justifying your actions, still excusing your spam, still being defensive, still absolutely believing you did the right thing despite pissing a bunch of people off, still not apologising.

I don’t know which bit of your message you think I didn’t read. I think you misinterpret my disagreement as lack of comprehension.

We disagree about what spam is - you seem to think that spam is by its nature repetitive, whereas I think that spam is by its nature unsolicited and unwelcome, using addresses scraped from something that isn’t an opt-in list. This isn’t because I didn’t read your statement that you only sent one unwelcome and unsolicited inbox message, it’s because you think it was OK to do it and no big deal and I think it was absolutely not OK to do it, that you should have realised that pinging thousands and thousands of users who ever commented might piss some of them off and that you should have realised that this is EXACTLY what spammers do.

We disagree about how annoying it is or isn’t to be told/asked to do something we have no interest in doing by a group of tens of people who decided that thousands of other people should do something. It’s OK for you to not be pissed off by that, but telling me that I’m wrong to be irritated by that because “you” lack the authority to tell me what to do comes incredibly close to seeing the point whilst missing it entirely. “You’re wrong on a technicality” isn’t a great way of responding to someone who finds something you or your friends did irritating.

I was factually incorrect that you’re all mods of the new community, only one of you is. But again, arguing that I’m wrong about who did this isn’t a great way of winning the argument you’re having about whether it’s annoying or not, and isn’t a great way of making me less pissed off. In fact I was usually using the word mod simply because this is the sort of message that a mod should just pin at the top of their community.

You’re also making a bunch of wrong accusations.

I made precisely two accusations in that post:

(1) Like other spammers, you thought that your message was more important than people’s subscription preferences, so you did just like them and sent unwelcome unsolicited messages using scraped messages.

I stand by that accusation and I don’t see how you can honestly deny it, even if you disagree about my use of the word spam to describe it.

(2) Everyone involved in this mass spam is completely unrepentant and you all sound like you’d do it again in a heartbeat if you had another important message you wanted to share.

You all still are arguing rather than apologising, so I stand by this accusation too. (You’re not even using the politician’s non-apology “I’m sorry if some of you feel upset”.)

this isn’t something regular that clogs up people’s inboxes.

Never claimed it was regular, never claimed people’s inboxes were currently clogged up, but I’m telling you this: if every pinned post on every community that I ever commented in this year was an inbox message, my inbox would be in a similar spam-to-useful ratio as my email inboxes are. The only reason people aren’t complaining about all the spam in their inboxes on lemmy is that afaik, it only ever happened twice, almost no one does it. If everyone on lemmy behaved like you, our inboxes would all be flooded with spam. This should be a strong hint to you that you are the double start of something terrible that I want to not happen to lemmy. I imagine you’ll want to claim that this was an important message because it was a migration message, but again I need you to hear that you don’t get to decide what’s important to me, you just pin the message on your community like everyone else that thinks they have an important message does.

You’re blowing this out of proportions

You all are crap at apologising and all keep arguing with people that are cross with you already, trying to explain that they’re factually incorrect and therefore have no right to be cross. How did you think that was going to calm folks down?

It’s like you all took a course in conflict de-escalation and chose to do the opposite.

You’re defending spamming up and down this thread and arguing with anyone you pissed off. Have a little think about whether that makes the world a better place. And try reading what people say and be less broken record.

It won’t happen again.

Then stop defending it ffs and try apologising instead.

the mail-list

that was scraped, the way spammers do it. "We thought you’d be interested in… " is at the start of an awful lot of marketing crap.

I genuinely don’t get why someone’s notifications are so sacred to them to this extent.

Then you don’t understand why people don’t like spam. You support spamming. You think your message is more important than my preferences, than THOUSANDS of users preferences, and the fact that you’ve pissed off a bunch of users hasn’t even begun to convince you to even consider that you might be in the wrong here.

Spam is unsolicited messages sent to large numbers of users who didn’t sign up to receive the messages. You get a lot of it only because a lot of people think their message is more important than your subscription preferences. That’s exactly what you did here, and you pasted thousands of user addresses to achieve it.

Another reason that you have a lot of spam is that the people who know how to spam offer their skills to people that want to spam. That’s you. A third reason that you have a lot of spam is that spammers who think their message is more important than other people’s preferences, and that’s you as well: here you are, arguing with people who didn’t like your spam.

Everyone involved in this mass spam is completely unrepentant and you all sound like you’d do it again in a heartbeat if you had another important message you wanted to share.

There IS a facility on Lemmy for Important messages that all community members should read - it’s called pinned posts. There ISN’T a facility for mods to put stuff in the inboxes of thousands of users, subscribed or not (which is why you had to scrape data and paste it), and the reason is that there isn’t is that mods SHOULDN’T be able to message everyone who interacted with their community - their community is the correct place for that.

Frankly, when you next find yourself pasting thousands of usernames to send a mass message in the future, I want you to think “This is spam. I should not spam. Spamming thousands of people makes people cross. I should not annoy thousands of people, even slightly, even if I think it’s important. I should not spam thousands or even hundreds of users. This is not the way to get my message accepted. This pisses people off. I should respect these people more than this. I should put a notice up where people can read it if they care and I should not try to force people to care by spamming them.”

Did you ever have someone email hundreds of people at your organisation with something that was important to them but wasn’t to most people? And then someone presses reply-all and says “I don’t want to be on this list”. That’s the world of behavior you’re in. Stop it.