Should we go ahead and put a curriculum together and start shipping it to universities, or…?

Such good points; I’m convinced. To continue on your line of thinking, after learning some media literacy and starting to notice different patterns and forms of discussion, I wonder if learning Aristotelian syllogisms would be a good next step. So we still aren’t jumping right into fallacies per se, but we start to understand logic structure and what is formally valid/invalid. So now it’s got them thinking about how to structure and challenge their own beliefs and arguments. And while we are now potentially hitting formal fallacies, I think this would not give any immediate tools for dunking on anyone either because, in my experience, converting a real-time argument to a syllogism is very very difficult without a ton of experience and practice breaking arguments down into simpler ideas. What do you think?

Rather than not encouraging focusing and learning fallacies, maybe we are simply saying that they need to also learn to use them appropriately? Fallacies are not just the informal ones that everyone is referencing here in this thread, but also the formal ones which are very much required for logical argument structure. So even in learning about fallacies, there will be opportunities to understand the difference between informal and formal, why they are different, and how that applies to discourse. Knowledge is power; it just needs to be balanced with understanding on how to use and I think a deep dive into fallacies could actually assist in that regard.

Haha whaaaat. After all this time, I had no idea that was a thing. Any enemy? Not bosses though, right?

Resident Evil Director’s Cut on PS1. I was fairly young and not very good at the “survival” aspect of the survival horror. I tried to kill everything I encountered and consumed copious amounts of ammo and herbs doing so. I reached a place where I had a single ink ribbon left, no ammo, health on the red, and confused on where I needed to go next. And I had to go do homework. So I used my last ribbon and saved.

I discovered next time I played that the way forward was through a tight corridor I missed filled with zombies who could now one-shot me. I tried and tried and literally was unable to get through. First time I ever learned the word “soft-locked” as my brother wheezed it out while laughing. Good times!

@CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.ml, you’re going to want in on this conversation.

That’s exactly what I did. I moved my reddit app elsewhere and put Jerboa in its place. Now when I instinctually click, I get confused for a minute as I look at Lemmy and then sigh in relief and start browsing lol. Brains take so much work to adjust to change.

Oooh, right, I did see a post about it putting up DDOS protection and how that might screw with things. So this might just be temporary then. That at least helps me understand it; I have been trying to understand the fediverse and that behavior really confused me and made me think I was missing something big. Thanks!

I’m with you. I’ve watched Reddit pull a LOT of bullshit over the years, and this is heinous enough that I’m done. I’ll keep my account because there are some very niche subs that can provide help with certain things, so I want to be able to search or post to them as needed. But Lemmy really has my attention now.