Ah yes, what C needs is VTABLEs.

My kid is learning HTML so… maybe?

That’s missing the point. Engineers perform at a specific level. You don’t expect civil engineers to build the bridge. Can they do it? Sure. But that’s not the profession. Same with Structural Engineers, Chemical Engineers, Industrial Engineers, etc. They are at a higher level in the planification and execution process and will likely have signatory responsibilities on the project. If the bridge falls, the engineer does have explaining to do.

The equivalent for a software engineer would be (in the US) more at the level of architect with responsibilities higher than developers.

But engineers is not a protected term so everyone is an engineer now.

They’re regulating engineering of software and electronics.

From Engineers Canada;

In the case of software engineering, a piece of software (or a software-intensive system) can therefore be considered an engineering work if both of the following conditions are true:

• The development of the software required “the application of a systematic, disciplined, quantifiable approach to the development, operation, and maintenance of software.”

• There is a reasonable expectation that failure or inappropriate functioning of the system would result in harm to life, health, property, economic interests, the public welfare, or the natural environment.

That does seem to me well defined. If you disagree then it’s okay.

Edit: taken from this: https://engineerscanada.ca/sites/default/files/public-policy/professional-practice-software-engineering-en.pdf which also add context.

I cannot speak about electronics as my education was in software engineering.

Software development is done by developers. If you are a software engineer chances are you’re working on software infrastructure that actually apply at scales that are not “add a shopping cart to this blog”.

There are reasons you ask a civil engineer for work.

It’s a good thing that Engineer is a protected profession and not everyone can claim it, like Lawyer or Doctor.

In the US now it’s “oh you’re an engineer? Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?”

People who learnt structural OOP without actually understanding typing system and their benefits really struggle with learning Rist as they try to map classes onto structs and it just doesn’t work.

Traits are not inheritance. Box is not polymorphism. Rust is not C++ with more keywords.

Yep the ASCII table just goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, …

“He’s me.” - Obi Wan Kenobi

I think people are confusing centralized with federated. Federation has benefits but Mastodon is not decentralized. There is duplication of data but it’s not the same.

Data Link layer be pretty stable to be fair ^_

Alternatively, I don’t think that not educating AI is an option.

So are we not calculating the amount of training the junior dev took?

How about using years? “This OS runs on 80s hardware” is still impressive, understandable, and wrong.

Maybe you’re born with it.

Give it time.

I barely have time to contribute to fix bugs in the dependencies I use. If I had more time for OSS contributions I might, but I’m not in my 20s anymore and when I’m not at work I’m taking care of my family.

My colleagues and friends are free to do as they please.

There are multiple things in Go that make it better.

But just for giving a few thoughts about Java itself;

• being able to import a package and use it as a namespace would already go a long way
• being able to import multiple things from a package without listing separate line for each items
• not having to go from the root of the whole fucking world to import a package would be great
• having the ability to do relative imports to the module I’m writing would be great

These are like “module 101” things. Like, you’re right that the IDEs nowadays do most of that, but IDEs also get it wrong (“oh you meant a THAT package instead of that other one”) and reading the code without an IDE is still a thing (code reviews for example) which means the longer the import section (both vertically and horizontally) the harder it is to work with. And if you don’t look at all imports carefully you may miss a bug or a vulnerability.

Also, Java is the only language I know of that has such a span on the horizontal. The memes about needing a widescreen monitor for Java is actually not a joke; I never had to scroll horizontally in any other language. To me that’s just insanity.

Also, if you’re gonna make it the whole universe as the root of your package structure, we already have DNS and URI/URLs for that. Let me use that!

And don’t get me started as only-files-as-packages while simultaneously having maybe-you-have-multiple-root for your code… makes discovery of related files to the one you’re working with very hard. Then of course the over reliance on generated code generating imports that might or might not exist yet because you just cloned your project…

PHP never went away. Wordpress, Mediawiki, Slack, Facebook, etc etc etc. IMO PHP is likely to have created the most wealth per line of code of all languages, including C (edit: since 2000). It’s completely under the radar.

how is the verbosity a negative thing exactly

Fun fact, studies have found that the number of bugs in a program is proportional to the number of lines of codes, across languages. More lines of codes, more bugs, even for the same math and edge cases. So a more verbose language tends to have more bugs.