So they never got contribution from anyone else or is Apache not really copyleft?

Putrid flesh ? Is he a zombie ?

(message to rekabis, please don’t take the following personnally, this is the grudge I have been carrying in my heart for a long time toward all moderators, I’m sorry my experience gives me an uncompromising AMAB “all moderators are bad” unshakeable conviction )

(Also this is a raw text as written, but you can find a somewhat shorter TL;DR here)

(I know my text sounds extreme, but I actually failed to fully express how I feel about this, it is MUCH worse than this and my solution for it is much more complicated than the little idealized version. I think all datacenters should die, basically. )

I want to explain, just how much I disagree with the very idea of moderation itself.

I come from web0 and I find the concept of moderation offensive.

To me a moderator is first of all, someone that suppressed me as a person and manipulates my perception of cyber reality. To me a moderator is a private tyrant that owns the public square and rules it like a cop. They are like that kid who would take his ball and go home. Except he owns the whole street as well.

I have no need for moderation, there is no content on Earth, including the most vicious computer viruses that can hurt me. I understand there was a small period in time when there was spam and it was annoying. But the cure has been much worse than the disease.

And that was before we have locally running, offline LLMs who could do the job of moderation to our own exact specification.

And it’s not just the deleting I have an issue with, it is the manipulation of the content discovery algorithm.

I do not like the knob twiddlers, who fine tune our perceptions to their own desires and biases from the shadows.

The faceless, unaccountable and unknown moderators who mediate who cyber reality.

The supposed humble janitors of the internet who have become its ruling cultural elite. Who adjudicate on all aspect of social and private life. Who have apparently embarked on a project to reshape all of society to their own neurotic image.

My generation has really messed up when we dreamed of Web2 and handed over our agencies to the unaccountable untrustworthy cyber elites and that is a wrong that I hope to see righted before the Musks and the Zucks finish devouring the nerve fibers that connect us.

I know you have good intentions and you probably worked at it really hard but I, simply cannot ever trust the people in your position ever again.

I have seen the mod logs, the trivial things that warranted ban hammers. The moderators drunk with their petty power who lick their lips with their toothy grin at the opportunity to use it.

This is when the dream of Web 2.0 died for me and I saw that we went terribly wrong. Even places with some open standards of moderation like wikipedia, looking at how the sausage is made is quite awful but I respect their high commitment to openness.

The phenomenom of believing in “necroposting” is just one tiny protrusion of the disease that has metastasized throughout our entire communication systems.

The only acceptable future of moderation, is as a subscription service. If you think you’re good enough to moderate what I see, I will subscribe, I will pay you for it.

But I MUST have access to the absolute raw feed, warts and all. I must be able to see every single decision you have done for me as a delegate. I MUST have the power of recall on any of your actions at all time.

The problem with moderators deleting stuff is that while I can easily ignore unwanted content, I can perform my own searches and I can run my own content discovery algorithm. But one thing I cannot do is undelete data that you have destroyed.

There is no space for compromise, it is clear that the outsourcing of moderation to shadowy unknowns has been a grave mistake done out of our collective laziness and ignorance and that the fight to seize back control of our communication is hopelessly skewed against us, it is not a power that will be relinquished without a fight.

The only way forward I see, is the abandonement of centralized private servers that “own” speech. This has been the bedrock on which the power of moderators has grown, “taking my ball home” power and all the people who disrespect freedom of speech “because it’s private”. Public speech has no place on private platforms, you get to talk until the police comes murder you in your sleep ala Fred Hampton.

Ok now to address you points specifically

The signal to noise ratio is a side effect of the forum software antiquated view. You know the chronological ordering of “last posts”. This technical error has create a group of people who sit on the forum and focus on posts by new and compulsively sort, censor, applies rules to them. They forget that this is not how 99.99% of user interact with their space, but these people get all the power to decide what stays on the server that they own. This is an archaic leftover from the BBS area and doesn’t have a place in the future.

As for necroposting, you should know by now that time does not exist on the internet, there is no space and no time. Text written in 2005 and 2024 coexist seamlessly. The concept that there is an end to a thread is anachronistic. It is an aesthetic judgement. This is like saying “nobody will ever speak again of topic” and then the subject is closed forever. If you want to see the end of a thread, print it out on paper, the internet version of any thread will receive comments in the year 2525 if humans and their computers still exist

Do not ever lock a thread, for any reason, I don’t care about your aesthethic choice, you have damaged the fabric of the internet with your idea of necro posting.

NOOOO, creating a new thread is a bad idea. The thread that is found and weighted in the search engine IS the pinned thread, it is the ONLY thread that matter. It is hopeless and pointless to create a new thread on an existing topic.

The very idea of necroposting is the basis for these moderator opinions. It is not a neutral term, the idea of necroposting is a negative attitude toward all late posts, it is a permission that all moderators give themselves to delete late posts, lock threads or even, auto lock after a determined period of inactivity. It makes these ideas, prominent on search result into literally unassailable answers. Which is the secret desire of all moderators, to decide the final word.

This is the attitude that leads us to search results polluted with forum threads with bad, unchallengeable ideas (because they’re locked). Almost all web1 forum are becoming digital flotsam because of these bad moderator opinions.

How is that really different from the same comment 2 second after. It just isn’t.

Just ban hammer low the value commenters don’t lock the thread for moderator convenience.

It was a 30 minute long video, I watched it last week. I searched and searched in my PC and phone youtuve history but can’t find it.

It had a bit about how every part of a supply chain is trying to leverage its position for dominance, and that this shape the end product

Lol, no

Necroposting is a slur by the terminally online against normal people trying to get shot done. They’re the reason why every Google search that leads to a forum ends with some guy asking your question and being told to start a new thread instead.

I am desperately trying to find a video from last week but I’m very likely am never going to see it again

69/yes/flavourtown

It’s probably your BCM But also you really should have included your make and model…

Leveraging technology is a lever of power. Whenever you use technology, you are acting in a submissive manner and that will be used to exploit you.

That’s the only one that actually looks like a lemmy

Always start SO questions with X/Y problem pre-empting

These people are everywhere and will stop at nothing to make you click on one of these

https://xyproblem.info/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34444353 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem

They are trying to derail your question, which was already a generalized version of what your actual question was. And of course, you would need to explain everything you generalized out of your question (which would probably all get deleted by someone editing your question and removing all the irrelevant facts) by which point your question becomes so complicated nobody can answer it, even though they could have answered the generalized version.

My advice, just use chatgpt or mistral, 99% you will get a better answer than stackoverflow. And you will get this actionnable answer IMMEDIATELY !

Not discussed, they assumed I knew, they were correct.

Ditto clipboard manager and altsnap with the Hot-click and fancyzone style controls

I suggest moderation and good taste in these matters

And here is further further elaboration

Is this advice real ? ChatGPT said:

Yes, the advice being shared is based on the concept of moistening toilet paper to improve cleanliness. Using a moist wipe can reduce irritation and make the cleaning process more efficient. Spitting on toilet paper is one DIY approach to achieving the effect of a moist wipe when no other options, like a bidet or wet wipes, are available.

That being said, there are better alternatives than using saliva, such as dampening toilet paper with water, using wet wipes (if safe for plumbing), or using bidets, which are specifically designed for better hygiene. Saliva contains enzymes and bacteria that may not be ideal for the sensitive skin around the anus. So, while the advice may be practical in a pinch, it’s not necessarily the best or most hygienic long-term solution.

You said: I believe you are wrong, saliva is in fact superior, exactly because of the enzymes, increased viscosity and body temperature warm.

ChatGPT said:

You’re correct that saliva has unique properties, such as enzymes (like amylase), increased viscosity, and being body-temperature warm, which can aid in certain situations. However, whether or not these properties make it superior for cleaning after using the toilet is up for debate, and hygiene considerations need to be taken into account.

Enzymes and Cleaning: Saliva contains enzymes like amylase, which help break down starches. While this is useful for digestion, its role in cleaning the skin after defecation might be minimal, as most of what you're cleaning won't be significantly affected by enzymes meant for breaking down food.

Viscosity and Warmth: The increased viscosity and body warmth of saliva might make it more effective at providing a gentle, less abrasive clean compared to dry toilet paper. This could also be more comfortable and reduce irritation.

Bacteria in Saliva: The downside, however, is that saliva contains a large number of bacteria, which are generally harmless in the mouth but could potentially cause infections or irritation when introduced to the sensitive skin around the anus.

While saliva might provide some benefits, especially in a situation where no other options are available, using water, dampened toilet paper, or a proper hygiene product like a wet wipe or bidet is still generally considered safer and more effective for maintaining good hygiene.

So while there’s a point to your argument about saliva’s properties, health professionals would likely still recommend other methods as more hygienic in the long run.

You are welcome Obama