The “front page” of most instances are not interesting to average people or to professionals (e.g. local gov that wants to go open source, like those switching to Mastodon).

Part is lemmy’s hot-sort is basically broken as a ranking, another part is bad language filters, another part is that major communities here (fediverse, Linux memes, star trek memes, science memes, etc) are off-putting to out-of-group people because of so many in-group jokes. Its a hard fix.

If we serve licensed content over ssh or HTTPS it’s still licensed. Protocols don’t change the legal requirements of the data. Warner Bros will still sue if one of their movies is hosted on a server using the activity pub protocol.

What? I’m saying every federated copy must legally must have the usage restrictions. Just cause it’s copied doesn’t mean it can go into a for-profit LLM.

it can apply across all of them, for example that’s how copy-left works

Sure, but it’s still true that there are legal protections we can add that make it not fair game for Lemmy. At best it would be unfair-game (illegal scraping of Lemmy)

It’s not fair game for for-profit bussinesses training LLM’s. That’s part of why Reddit made the move; so that companies would need to pay Reddit for access to the data for legally training models

Yeah, sorry if I’m not great at communicating. That’s exactly what I’m trying to point out when I said:

Even if we don’t federate with them, Meta can still harvest the data so we should add these protections regardless.

As opposed to a facebook-controlled server being the top search result for Lemmy.

I see why that’s confusing so I edited my comment just now

I think we can give facebook/threads the bad end of the bargin IF we have a data protections.

You know how powerful copy-left was for open source? I think we can do the same for Lemmy servers. We can have users agree (formally) that the data on a particular server cannot be used for training llvm’s advertisements, marketing profiles, etc, and make it legally binding.

Even if we don’t federate with them, Meta can still harvest the data so we should add these protections regardless. Maybe there is already something like this and I’m just unaware of it.

If we do add these protections and we ensure that the largest instance (e.g. Lemmy.world) is community controlled, I think it could work well for bringing more content to Lemmy.

I feel dumb for having to ask but what exactly is “active users half year” vs “active uses monthly”?

Is half year just mean one or more comments/upvotes in the last 6months?

If you make one I will join.

Of course I won’t have anything to post because I don’t own a paramotor but eventually I will!

Actually, that’s my point we CAN’T rank them.

• on reddit for every 1 post there are 100 or 1000 lurkers voting/ranking the post
• but on Lemmy: there are so many bot posts, that every 1 bot post has like 0.1 Lemmy users voting/ranking it

It is totally impractical for us to correctly/effectively rank the absolute torrent of posts coming from reddit, and the result is that every high quality 1000-reddit-upvote post is surrounded by an ocean of straightup-spam 1-reddit-upvote posts.

Real Lemmy posts in a community are completely drowned out by bot posts. I can’t even find real users posting in a community because there’s so many bot posts.

I feel like any reddit that asks questions should not have a Lemmy bot. Like I just saw a bot for r/whatisthis and I just can’t understand the logic. Who would EVER answer a question when the OP can’t even see the response. I didn’t want to rant about it, but really, how can we get in contact with the bot creators???

Meanwhile, something as simple as calvin and hobbs clips are being manually posted on a daily schedule by a regular Lemmy user.

Without thinking about it much, my understanding was that each line of the stack trace referred to a real line, even though the block as a whole wasn’t a program.

But! because of this comment I went and checked the lines of those stack traces. And in fact, they’re not real lines, just the C++ type expansion.

That said I’ve got a another half as bad example that is real so Ive edited the comment to point to that example instead.

Not even just trolls, I have yet to come across a clearly-bad post that wasn’t already downvoted to oblivion, or a clearly-good post that had a negative total. And the csam response? Straight up world-class defense system faster than any megacorp could’ve scrambled together.

Lemmy users are anything but passive when it comes to trash showing up in the feed.

If you think that’s good, then you’re gonna love this “simplified” real code posted as a real issue on one of my Github repos.

Edit: updated link to address the stack-trace comment

I mean yeah, but I do like knowing who and in what way.

Pease consider the opposite; if a fork is needed at some point in the future, we need people who are familiar with the codebase. It would be, for example, much better for 3 of 4 contributors to be sane than only 2 of 3.

AFAIK the NSFW is actually part of Activity Pub (e.g. its bigger than lemmy).

To fix this, I think Lemmy should adopt a system like hashtags or flairs. This would allow anything, like spoliers, or a market communities adding #sold, etc. The app displaying the posts can choose what to do with them (e.g. filtering out #nsfl)

Did you hide all NSFW and still get that problem?