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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • You might want to reconsider the iamverysmart routine since you couldn’t even spell copyright correctly one comment ago, yet I assume you expect me to believe you have some knowledge of the topic.

    However, your point is my point. There was no risk of a lawsuit; they’d just get a takedown notice.

    Though, now that I scroll up, what does this have to do with whether or not defederation is sometimes warranted? Did I get mixed up, or did you?




  • Copyright (not “copywrite”, btw) law is batshit insane, but somehow people believe it to be even worse than it is.

    Your browser makes copies of every image you see, but this doesn’t violate copyright law because it’s automatic and necessary for the browser to function. Does that sound familiar?

    Also, for like 2 decades the standard action is just a takedown request that threatens legal action if ignored.

    And to be clear, the admins had no actionable reason to block the piracy communities. They did it preemptively.






  • I don’t need anyone choosing for me what I should and should not see. I can (and do) do that myself, thank you.

    I see this a lot, and first off, it’s not true at the instance level, for lemmy-- unless there’s a new option I didn’t see. Second, having to block someone that suggests you should die for your skin color, after reading the comment, is not without harm. There is value in preventing the speech from being seen at all, versus blocking people after the fact.

    It’s obviously a generalization, but generally the people who say “just block them” are also people that haven’t lived with systemic bigotry directed at them for their entire lives.

    And for the record, I don’t think piracy falls into this category of speech.


  • It’s a problem of scale. If you don’t defederate from a racist-focused instance (for example; hypothetically speaking), then you need to devote resources to moderating those users who make racist comments, as allowed by their instance, but directed at your users. Sure, you could do this, but it’s probably smarter to just defederate and save the resources for other uses. And no moderation team is going to be flawless, so racism will still creep in and be missed by the mod team.

    It might be a different story if users are given the tools to block entire instances (like kbin has) but even then I think the ROI would be low.