But yeah, centralization should happen.

Fam, we are here precisely because we don’t want centralization.

If you want that, Reddit and Facebook and BS are that way.

Interesting! Didn’t know that was what it was for. I always thought it was merely a storage backend.

Any metrics on how many instances are using it and how much deduplication is it doing? EDIT: I see the numbers on their page, I was wondering more about people or instances using their own copy of it, since it’s open source.

Usually the issue of media storage (photos, videos, etc) is brought in as an Issue. For now I’ll skirt the “legal ramifications” including copying media and privacy, as those are an ever changing landscape of legal wanking that wankers can speak of much better than one can (and evil wanking still needs to be fought against).

One idea I’ve seen floated around is to have some sort of cooperative CDN for instances. Let’s say four or five relatively kindred instances, make a commitment to last and pool their resources to maintain a joint CDN from from which they’ll get their “media federation” from. This would reduce costs and issues a lot, since by the very nature of the fediverse, if everyone builds their own caches most of those caches are going to be hosting most of the same content. Basically: deduplication, but the poor man’s version.

Another alternative is to just ditch storage of videos and images. Just take links to Elsewhere and let Elsewhere handle it.

If the Fediverse wants to attract more people, then it needs to start expanding into what those other people actually want.

I’m okay with more people, but not those people. We are here in the Fediverse for some degree of quality, of which furries explaining the Linux kernel is one example of kind.

I’m not sure if there’s a solution here, but I’d like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

It depends on what exactly do you consider the problem to be, but my understanding is that solutions to the more general problem of “what server a community is in” are already in the works (multicommunities and stuff).

As for a more local kind of change… Be the change you want to see. Start up, and maintain, those alt communities that would serve as counterweights to the ones that are in .ml. Also, understand why they are in .ml in the first place yet still manage to function.

The one feature that I’d love to see IMO: make it so Lemmy doesn’t require Javascript to work to even view the main page. Come on we are supposed to be recovering the good web times of the '90s, why do I need a react json vue left_pad framework to produce a list of items that can just be consistently delivered by a HTML <ul>?

Feel free to crosspost! The entire point of the web is that it has connections.

I wonder who was the idiot who made a persistent ID for identity reliant on a third party factor that can be trivially taken away.

Any plans for solving it that are known?

Finally, what the Fediverse needed:

AIs.

Good to know they’ve caught up to us from the walled gardens. Welp, I guess that’s it folks. Let’s pack up and go back to Usenet.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

To be fair, it’s to be expected. Because other platforms have muscle from those companies (Nintendo is basically from the land of the Yakuza, and they do behave as such towards their customers) so that commentary on their stuff in those platforms is sanitized or corporationized. On lemmy you can, for the most part, comment on how you really feel about a corporation.

This pretty much. For as much as people are concerned that the “lack of UX” or the “discoverability” problems keeps people out, the important thing is it keeps normies out.

As I’ve seen before on some posts on the Fediverse discussing proprietary platforms, we all already know this. We saw FB went to shit as soon as it started allowing uneducated users.

But they might…if you infused 58 million new users to the mix.

It’s far, far more likely they’ll be interested in eugenicism, UN conspiranoia and the divine right of Israel, given the platform they’re “branching” from.

Nobody is going to scroll in their off time when you can randomly have furry dick pop up.

But when they have that content, or even worse stuff such as neo-nazism, shown on Twitter and Facebook, suddenly they have no issue! Suspicious.

this definitely makes sense in the OSS community, but i feel like someone should’ve already done it as a semi pet project already. I know i would’ve done it.

Pet project, yes; production-ready, that’s a whole 'nother story.

Ultimately some things are too complex to deliver out on tem “just because”. Such as web browsers, hence ATM there only exist about 2.

Don’t hold your breath on the whole “wisening up to the VC funding” thing. People today still believe the moon landing was somehow faked to own the libs or something silly like that.

The grossest franchise of all time (Pokémon) still has like 20 forums going on.

Discord is just high quality and

What are you smoking and can you share the contact info of your dealer?

the major issue with forums, as pointed out, is the hassle of having to go from one website to another to talk about various subjects and needing to sign up to each one of them.

Honestly the “having to sign up” part would be trivial to solve if topical forums just globally adopted OpenID sign-in or similar. No need to have one account per community if you already have (or “are”) an account in the World.

But even then, there’s a point to having to go through a sign-up process. At least some sort of vetting. We have seen how far have fallen all the communities that have ever relaxed sign-ups (as another comment in this thread shows, there was once a time when FB only allowed educated people in).

It’s 2024, h264 runs on a CPU like nothing, why haven’t we figured out how to do these things yet?

It’s not about the hardware. (Not like it’s that ubiquitous anyway; I’m daily driving a machine from 2017)

I’m going to guess part of it is because for the things that matter to the people who do end up having to code, test and distribute stuff, something like “seamless screen sharing” or “video conference” doesnt really matter.

And IMO, that’s good if we want to Recover the Web.

The idea behind being in something like a jabber chatroom, or a web forum, is that I can pay attention to 12 channels (or whatever) at a time, read one or two, reply in three others, etc. Text is so un-invasive that I can just explore without bothering myself or anyone else.

In comparison, something like audio chat or video chat is more presence-encompassing. You can’t really “push to talk” three different things to three chatrooms at about once, and you likely can but won’t want to listen to three chatrooms full of people at the same time. For something like a videoconference you not only need a camera, but a good behind-you because not only who knows who or what will be showing back there.

In the end, something like a simple jabber-like chatroom is far easier and more productive to work on, even before we get to the coding part.

Not to mention: this is computer stuff. No one really likes to work on “debt”, which is what “Foo has to have ‘screen sharing’ because Discord has it” ultimately boils down to.