Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

Right because innovation materializes itself when we want … We just flicked our fingers and airplane, cellphone and others just appeared.

Who are you to tell what we should or should not pursue?

Isn’t there space for both? Why not try multiple avenues? Why have this negative view on everything? Wouldn’t you say the airplane and the car have tremendously improved humanity, even with all its downsides? Or the cellphone?

I bet at the time of their inventions you would be opposing it because “billionaires are bad and this industry is going to explore the working class”. Guess what? Yes billionaires are bad and explore people and you (all of us) should be fighting against that, not against scientific and engineering inovation.

You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

Is this sub-populated mostly by Facebook people? Some of the answers really feel like it.

This is the “you’re more productive at the office” crowd

• You will spend your entire career chasing trends.

Depends on the language, that’s mostly a JavaScript/typescript issue.

• The market is volatile. People are constantly getting abruptly laid off. SD has never been very stable, so you should plan on getting a new job every few years.

Depends on the country, where I’m from there has been very few layoffs.

• Software companies are constantly looking for ways to make SD easier. As a result, your value will decrease over time, in preference for bootcampers and 2 year degree graduates.

Not sure what to say, I haven’t felt my value decrease. All I see are bubbles saying they will replace me… and then they burst.

Nobody listens to developers. Your manager’s beliefs about SD come entirely from consultants, magazines, and Elon Musk tweets.

Agree but that’s more of an engineering wide problem, specially when you get managers with very few engineering experience. Take the Apollo landings as an opposite example: great managers that were great engineers.

• Nobody cares about quality software. If you take the time to make your code efficient and lightweight, all your manager sees is you taking longer to make something than your peers. After all, we can just raise hardware requirements if the software is slow.

This is a bit too generic to argue against. You can get that in electrical engineering no? If you take more time designing that PCB because you want to better place the components to improve heat dissipation, will your manager care in the end?

Sure and place neovim there

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That’s not a nice thing to say. When you grow up perhaps we can continue this discussion

Not sure about java, but I migrated a fairly big c++ project knowing only the basics of Bazel. Disclaimer: I know the codebase extremely well and we don’t have any third party dependencies and the code is c++ and some python generators, validators, etc (which fits the bill for Bazel perfectly)

What I found super hard were toolchains. It’s very verbose to define a toolchain

This was solved by moving to bazel. It’s a bit more verbose and resource heavy, but the language is sane and how you structure your build code makes a lot of sense

How do you implement that? How is it feasible that Microsoft tests all the third party drivers?

Don’t get me wrong I believe Microsoft is partly to blame for this problem as well but for making it so hard for system admins to go around the system and solve things (as compared to Linux where you can do anything). I think sys admins would have solved this much faster if they were using Linux systems

I was just probing your argument because I guessed it was the typical nonsense of Microsoft bad, Linux good, without a good explanation

Can you explain why you think this is a Microsoft issue?

Yes. I’m no security expert, but ebpf always seemed a bit weird to me. But in the end how much different is it from kernel drivers?

I was caught by surprise and for some reason this joke clicked so much that I laughed for a while. Kudos

Or perhaps it will come from the right? Undefined behaviour is the magic word

I’m currently looking for a 13’’ computer (or a small 14’'), I’d love to support Framework as they are exactly what I’m looking to support… But, they still don’t ship to my country and I don’t want to spend so much for a laptop (and I don’t need very modern features on a personal machine).

This means I’ll end up buying a used ThinkPad to serve my needs for the next 4/5 years. Though, If they did ship to my country I would be spamming my employee everyday to buy them.

What I mean is better licenses that make sure you get paid if companies profit from it, and harsher penalties for those that get caught infringing the license

That’s why Foss will always be better, and we need to support these developers. They also need to protect their software better from capitalist ghouls that will profit from it for free