• mjokfox@pawb.socialM
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      Gray foxes are not from the Vulpes genus, which we call ‘true’ foxes, and are illustrated in the post. Theyre from the genus Urocyon! Which actually evolutionary predates Vulpes. Gray foxes not being part of Vulpes does not mean they are not foxes in the scientific sense, but in the sense of it being an animal which behaves, looks like a fox, so we still call them foxes.

      Also think about the crab-eating fox (cerdocyon), bat-eared fox (otocyon) and all south American foxes (lycalopex). Theyre not true foxes as theyre not vulpes, but theyre still what we call foxes! :3

      See also:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caninae

      https://findafox.net/post/view/1704

      https://findafox.net/post/view/2906

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        Theyre from the genus Urocyon! Which actually evolutionary predates Vulpes. Gray foxes not being part of Vulpes does not mean they are not foxes in the scientific sense, but in the sense of it being an animal which behaves, looks like a fox, so we still call them foxes.

        Sorry if this is a dumb question, but animals like this just evolved from other ancestors, but have similar traits correct? That’s why we still consider them foxes?

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          Indeed, they evolved in similar environments, meant to fulfill a specific role in said environment. Here’s a quote from my friend Vuca that sums it up pretty good.

          A taxonomic exclusionist might consider only members of genus Vulpes to truly be foxes, but such is not my own view, thus here is why I am inclusive of what I deem a “fox”:

          “Fox” is a pre-scientific appellation. Hence I think what is considered a “fox” ought to be based on appearance and behavior (lay pre-scientific traits) rather than genetic taxonomy. And here are what I would define as the traits of a “fox”:

          1. a small-to-medium size wild canid
          2. with a long bushy tail
          3. that hunts small prey, in a solitary manner
          4. that does not live in packs

          From: https://findafox.net/user/vuca