First all the bs with Twitter and Elon, then Reddit having an exodus to Lemmy (not complaining lol), then Twitch. Are we like, in an alternate self healing dimension or something?
First all the bs with Twitter and Elon, then Reddit having an exodus to Lemmy (not complaining lol), then Twitch. Are we like, in an alternate self healing dimension or something?
What’s happening with Twitch? I haven’t heard anything.
The post title implies it were prevalent. Which it is not. Three platforms is not a lot overall.
The reasons between Twitter and Reddit are very different.
Twitter was fine. It’s on a single Person - Elon Musk - who bought Twitter. All changes after it were through them.
Reddit became a big platform. Now it’s run not by a small team but by a big company with management and CEO. Supposedly targeting going public, and probably focusing no longer on usefulness and the service but on profitability and growth. An inherently, broadly, and very different mindset and goals.
Twitch is going to a 50/50 revenue split while offering nothing in return.
Twitch CEO had an interview a few days ago saying that most big creators get their revenue via sponsors, so taking 50% isn’t bad. (dumb take)
Twitch announced a couple days ago they are putting HEAVY restrictions on any sponsor stuff, basically banning them all together. So now the 50/50 split is the only way to make money.
Twitch went back on their word yesterday, but the fact they already tried this, doesn’t look good on them. Most large creators are moving away to YouTube/Kick/etc when their contracts are up.
Isn’t the big reason YouTube stays strong is the ability for creators to earn money on the platform? Honestly kind of waiting for them to screw that up. It just makes too much sense for it not to get screwed up lol.
YouTube has a TON of terrible policies. I mean, the entire reason YouTube videos have sponsored sections in their videos is because YouTube screwed over creators during “adpocolypse”.
The issue is that nothing can replace YouTube. Hosting that much data is unbelievably costly. No other company is willing to put up with that, especially when other companies aren’t ad companies, so they don’t profit as much on data.
Google is in it for the long haul. Once a really good efficient video compression or codec comes out, Google will be laughing. Pied piper is their dream lol.
I read that wiki page, and most of it is that big advertisers pulled advertising, not Youtube doing anything proactively. The idea that advertisers are going to want to be next to anything that can blow up in the media is pretty crazy - they want non-offensive content to the widest possible audience, hence blandness. IDK, I don’t have any complaints about most of the channels affected based on the description on that wiki page. I think pre 2017 Advertisers just didn’t know they were playing next to that sort of content.
I mean, there is peertube, and I guess if you want something too edgy for Youtube there’s that, bitchute, the porn sites and onlyfans right? Again, those sites are either federated or don’t depend on the same ad buyers, though IDK how much anyone outside of maybe bitchute wants various racists and bigots on their site. I’m not even sure if you could straight up pay someone like vimeo or AWS to host some video content lol.
We all know what happened to Digg and Tumblr. Imgur just deleted their NSFW content. Youtube has been going downhill for a while now. It feels like we’re seeing the natural life-cycle of social media companies before our eyes.
I suspect that twitter is going to persist for a while too. I was talking to my partner who is no fan of Elon and where he is taking the site, but she said that she doesn’t know where she could build the kind of community she has found through Twitter. She gave mastodon the ole college try too, but the onboarding process there is somewhat complex, especially if you are trying to create a community similar to what you have on Twitter. So on Twitter she remains.
Yeah, Twitter already had critical mass. Many people built communities and networks and will likely remain for a long while still. It’s so big many can leave and they’ll still have many users.
Still, the platform did huge fuckups and changes driving users away. Doesn’t mean it’s dead. But certainly not doing well either.
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. It wasn’t about to collapse, but its stock was also anemic and it was flailing. It wouldn’t have decided to alienate advertisers and fire its whole trust and safety team without Elon, but it was eventually going to have to do something to “monetize” users more effectively.
-> Twitch Is Dead
tldw: they also want to monopolize the moneymaking on their platform
All I really know about Twitch is that Dankpods fucked them off a while back in favour of Float Plane because they randomly de-monetised him and wouldn’t talk to him.
I remember this, and that incident made me delete my twitch account. I love dankpods’ content, and the whole situation made me angry.
To be fair, I’m not really the Twitch target I guess. I’ve only ever used it twice; once to watch my wife playing a game, and once to watch a stream of a bird feeder in Cape Town for some nice background sound while I was working.
But I guess part of my disinterest is due to the fuckery with Wade.
I wasn’t a fan of Twitch already due to the unavoidable ads (or maybe I just don’t know how to properly set up uBlock Origin), but this takes the cake.
https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/19961
TBF twittter were preparing big layoffs and big changes, but didn’t because Musk was going to throw money at the board. If he hadn’t bought them, they would have also done something drastic