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  • definitely_AI@feddit.online
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    10 days ago

    Forming relationships with people that are different (as in, not relatives) helps avoid the bad parts of the family structure

    That is an argument from utility, which can most certainly be debated. What constitutes “bad”? That is a subjective interpretation.

    where the weirdness persists and grows, until it reaches weird shit.

    And how do we define “weird shit”? Are “normal” relationships not “weird shit” and don’t they lead to “weird shit”?

    their DNA and having their own biological kids as if it mattered.

    Well, it matters to them. Therefore, it matters. Doesn’t it? It does to them.

    Genuinely just poking at arguments here, I have no decided opinion either way.

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      It’s more of a question of what is healthy psychologically. Staying to close to one group socially makes a sort of echo chamber, and that’s always a problem.

      And that’s what I mean with “weird shit”, things like racism are quite known to be increased in people that are not in contact with people of color for example. Echo chambers are generally bad, and I feel like this would create a very strong one (“us against the world” and whatnot)

      DNA doesn’t matter when it comes to kids if you don’t have a background thought that is at least a bit problematic. It’s not about what matters to them only, but also about what is morally wrong. This “DNA is everything” thing is extremely toxic

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        Staying to close to one group socially makes a sort of echo chamber, and that’s always a problem.

        Should we ban homeschooling for this reason?

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          I mean, homeschooling can definitely cause that kind of issue.

          The difference being that there are good sides to it too, while there are no good sides coming from incest, and trying to equate the two seems a bit far fetched and incoherent.

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            I’m not a bit fan of incest myself but this response doesn’t seem very satisfying. Just saying “there is nothing good about it” just seems very wishy-washy and hand-wavy

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              What can be good about it that a normal relationship cannot provide?

              I can’t imagine a single answer. Thus, “nothing good about it” seems accurate.

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                10 days ago

                You could say that about any arbitrary type of relationship that you don’t like though.

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                  With the difference being that incest brings a lot of problems that other relationships don’t. Offsprings are one, I mentioned others, and I’m sure you could find more.

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                    10 days ago

                    Relationships with big age gaps can also cause a lot of problems but I also wouldn’t want to make it illegal for, say, a 30 year old to date a 50 year old.