• Sonori@beehaw.org
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    7 months ago

    I’ll admit, your comment is amazing.

    You start by saying that Hamas is so unlike a government or even an organized terrorist group like Isis that no one can possibly use common counter terror tactics against them, and by the end your saying that they are the government of Gaza repeating civilians who don’t want peace and which is actively fighting a war.

    As to your point about bunkers. Yes soldiers die in combat, that is why Isreal gives them combat pay. If you never send soldiers to fight against Hamas to gather intelligence from the places where you say there is the intelligence necessary to fight them, then by your own admission you are not trying to fight Hamas.

    Their was a reason why for instance the US sent actual soldiers with training in intelligence gathering into Osama Bin Ladin’s compound instead of just launching a few unguided bombs which lacked the physical accuracy to hit a specific building, even though doing so risked the soldiers getting shot at. But hay, maybe if the Israeli soldiers are unable to clear bunkers they can beg for the US to send the soldiers it used to clear the far more heavily fortified bunkers networks in the mountains of Afghanistan.

    Because going to where the enemy is and trying to get basic intelligence isn’t fighting fair, it is what you need to do to fight period.

    Moreover, why would Egypt want a bunch of Israeli refugees? Because at the end of the day, Palestinians are people who lived on the land that is now called Isreal for thousands of years, and now live in locked down territories that are administered and controlled by the Israeli government, and who by the Isreali governments own policy are dependent on Israel for their safety. Surely it is Isreal’s responsibility to intograte them into its population, not some foreign government.

    But as to your original point. Irregardless of what you personally think the word means.

    In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”

    Palestinians are an ethnic group native to Palesitine, read Isreal, and not Egypt. Removing them from their houses in Palestine, after they were expelled from their homes in Isreal for being the wrong race, and putting them in the desert south of Gaza seems like an effort to destroy an ethnic group by a prolonged effort of ethnic cleaning.

    Although if you want to be more specific and talk about the words your original comment was about.

    Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous. Along with direct removal such as deportation or population transfer, it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return, such as murder, rape, and property destruction.

    I really don’t see how the forced relocation by property destruction could be contested, seeing as the IDF is again by its own admission not using weapons capable of targeting specific buildings. Pushing all the civilians further south so that ‘they’ stop attacking is also, fun fact, called collective punishment and is prohibited by section 33 of the Geneva convention.