Cats or dogs? Katzen oder Hunde? Gatos o perros? Or something else entirely? Are you sure you’re even a person?

    • Link@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I’d say it’s unethical to breed them, but not to adopt them if that’s in their best interest.

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          1 year ago

          I think this is more of a problem with capitalism, than a problem with breeding being fundamentally wrong, we’re incentivized to breed as poorly as possible, it’s a race to the bottom.

          That being said, I think some animals are bred pretty carefully, definitely not dogs and cats, but certain insect breeding operations are pretty ethical just because being ethical with them is insanely easy.

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      1 year ago

      All pets?

      I think owning a tarantula, for example, is perfectly ethical, because of the way tarantus live.

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          1 year ago

          Certain animals don’t really roam as part of their lifestyle, most tarantulas are ambush predators, if you put a tarantula into a hole and regularly give it food, it doesn’t dream of the outside world where it can roam freely, roaming freely is its worst nightmare because that’s how it gets exposed to predators… tarantulas find a hole where they constantly get food and you can presume based on how they live in the wild that they’ve found the best hole ever.

          They also show clear signs of stress when they are stressed, and they show less of those in captivity than in the wild.

          That’s my argument for tarantulas anyway.

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              1 year ago

              Yeah, I think it’s really case by case in the animal kingdom, we have to avoid anthropomorphizing everything.

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                1 year ago

                It can be case by case for animals of the same type even. One of my cats is legit scared of outside and has no interest in leaving the house for any reason. The other cat is hesitantly curious so sometimes we bring him out on a lead. He never wants to wander further than a few feet though even if we prompt him to explore. They live good lives and feel safe neither really feels the need to roam far as I can tell.

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    1 year ago

    I like both. But if I had to pick, it’d be cats.

    The reason is that many people around here don’t handle their dogs well. That results in noise (hysterical barks in some cases) and poo landmines you have to watch out for.

    Well-trained dogs? Appreciate them. Dogs I personally know? Good boys! Random dogs from the neighborhood? No thanks.

    Having owned both, cats and dogs are quite different, and great in their own right. Dogs as a trusty companion, cats as a peculiar room mate.

    • Tretiak@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Cats are the mascot of the Internet. I love dogs too, but they require a lot of maintenance and attention compared to cats. Cats are the most arrogant creatures on Earth, and maybe the only ones that ‘truly’ live out their philosophy of life; of, “I’m better than you, and I know it.”

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    1 year ago

    Cats if I have to choose. Both can be great but I don’t really want to keep animals as pets.

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        1 year ago

        I think the ethics really depends on the specific animal, most reptiles and tarantulas are fine in my book.

        • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          I agree the specific animals and context is important, as well as comparing potential wellbeing in the wild vs as a pet. I have two axolotls let me tell you I’ve never seen anything with less going on in their heads than those things. My Venus fly trap is smarter than the both of them put together. Plus they’re about to go extinct in the wild. Keeping them as a hobby is important for their survival and I can’t imagine they’d in any way feel better or even notice being in the wild compared to a tank.

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            1 year ago

            I also think that the hobby allows them to be ambassadors for their kind, people often assume tarantulas and snakes are monsters that are out to get you, one question i’ve heard people ask someone holding a snake is “Why isn’t it attacking you”

            People have these insanely perverse ideas about these animals that go away when they discover they’re actually quite delightful.

  • GrishAix@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Why not both? I grew up in a household with a Great Dane and a Devon Rex. It was a amusing couple.

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    1 year ago

    I love both. I had a Queensland Heeler when I was a kid but we have always took in stray cats from the neighborhood.

  • fratermus@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Dog person. I’ve met a few cats I liked, but in general if I wanted to live with a creature that consumed resources and ignored me I’d still be married. :-P