Suburban car culture. People can go on and on about the how they like driving, and like the freedom to drive everywhere, even if it makes them fat and lonely. But what about their kids? It’s insane that kids are essentially trapped at home unless a parent happens to have the ability to drive that somewhere. Your convenient lifestyle comes at the cost of raising neurotic introverts who won’t go outside.
and how just by buying gas you are automagically a ‘more important’ road user than anyone else.
i get that as a general optimisation, the avg speed of vehicles should be considered from a routing perspective.
but its been entirely normalised that cars are “important” and everything else is inherently secondary to them. which is ofc pure bs, but most people assume it by default.
It’s no accident it happened this way, car companies yet bribed officials to make everything but driving a car illegal, re: jwalking and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race
To me it’s the complete opposite. How can you raise children in the city? They can’t go out without a parent watching over them, they don’t even have a garden to play outside. By moving to the suburbs, my kids can just get on their bike, scooter or skateboard and meet up with their friends at their home or at the park, even as young as 8, it’s a pretty safe place and they’ve got plenty of outdoors to enjoy. We have room for the pool as well as the trampoline, playing soccer and kids can just walk to school super early.
I moved in to the city when I was 14, after growing in the country/suburbs, when you’re a teen, it’s fun to take the bus to go watch a movie with your friends without relying on a parent driving you there and back. But younger than that, take your bike and you’ve got complete freedom!
I couldn’t imagine raising my kids in the city so we moved out before having them, now I can’t imagine moving into the city ever again, I actually almost never go to the city except to visit friends or some museums, too many people, bricks and asphalt.
There’s a lot of people who call exurban areas suburbs. And everyone has basically changed the definition. Suburbs in the traditional definition are usually close to a city (often within the city limits), and has house but also public transport and close access to the city itself. And in that sense suburbs are probably a very nice balance, compared to exurbs. Exurbs are definitely not a nice balance, as it’s nothing but stroads and shitty plazas, with giant parking lots, and fast food chains.
Brooklyn is technically a suburb. Palmdale, CA is a exurb.
Suburban car culture. People can go on and on about the how they like driving, and like the freedom to drive everywhere, even if it makes them fat and lonely. But what about their kids? It’s insane that kids are essentially trapped at home unless a parent happens to have the ability to drive that somewhere. Your convenient lifestyle comes at the cost of raising neurotic introverts who won’t go outside.
and how just by buying gas you are automagically a ‘more important’ road user than anyone else.
i get that as a general optimisation, the avg speed of vehicles should be considered from a routing perspective.
but its been entirely normalised that cars are “important” and everything else is inherently secondary to them. which is ofc pure bs, but most people assume it by default.
It’s no accident it happened this way, car companies yet bribed officials to make everything but driving a car illegal, re: jwalking and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race
To me it’s the complete opposite. How can you raise children in the city? They can’t go out without a parent watching over them, they don’t even have a garden to play outside. By moving to the suburbs, my kids can just get on their bike, scooter or skateboard and meet up with their friends at their home or at the park, even as young as 8, it’s a pretty safe place and they’ve got plenty of outdoors to enjoy. We have room for the pool as well as the trampoline, playing soccer and kids can just walk to school super early.
I moved in to the city when I was 14, after growing in the country/suburbs, when you’re a teen, it’s fun to take the bus to go watch a movie with your friends without relying on a parent driving you there and back. But younger than that, take your bike and you’ve got complete freedom!
I couldn’t imagine raising my kids in the city so we moved out before having them, now I can’t imagine moving into the city ever again, I actually almost never go to the city except to visit friends or some museums, too many people, bricks and asphalt.
i suspect that’s a big part of ops point. without proper transport alternatives (eg. bus, bike etc) you’re fucked.
There’s a lot of people who call exurban areas suburbs. And everyone has basically changed the definition. Suburbs in the traditional definition are usually close to a city (often within the city limits), and has house but also public transport and close access to the city itself. And in that sense suburbs are probably a very nice balance, compared to exurbs. Exurbs are definitely not a nice balance, as it’s nothing but stroads and shitty plazas, with giant parking lots, and fast food chains.
Brooklyn is technically a suburb. Palmdale, CA is a exurb.