• Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      I’m not convinced you actually read my comment before responding.

      I don’t even think you wanted a discussion. I think you just want to say your belief and have it treated as fact.

        • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          2 months ago

          Okay, you definitely didn’t read my comment if that’s what you think it was. Let me sum it up for you:

          • A person’s merit is subjective.
          • Judging merit based on subjective values will bring in biases and corruption.
          • Judging merit based on objective values is impossible, and will need to be a simplification.
          • In either case, people will game the system to raise their value, regardless of whether they actually contribute anything of merit.
          • Any system will become outdated VERY quickly, as society is always changing.
          • Capitalism only judges the acquisition of capital, which is not a merit.
          • A person can cheat literally any system if they try hard enough.

          I explained all of that without a single anecdote.

            • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              21·
              2 months ago

              I don’t think I said “nothing can be done”. I just said meritocracy is impossible. And since it’s impossible, we need a different system we can actually achieve. It won’t be without flaws, but we can still aim to have LESS flaws than currently.

              You don’t improve by pretending nothing’s wrong.

              • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
                12·
                2 months ago

                I don’t think I said “nothing can be done”. I just said meritocracy is impossible.

                Why would I want to discuss anything with someone who will contradict themselves in the first two sentences they mutter.

                • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  3·
                  2 months ago

                  There are options other than “meritocracy” and “nothing”, you know. It’s worrying that didn’t occur to you.

                  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
                    13·
                    2 months ago

                    This is the common definition of meritocracy:

                    A system in which advancement is based on individual ability or achievement.

                    Yes, I dismiss you off hand for the very bold claim that meritocracy is impossible.

          • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
            13·
            2 months ago

            From which semi-tautological contortions we can conclude that, uh, capitalism probably isn’t the problem, after all.

            • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              21·
              2 months ago

              First, my conclusion is that meritocracy is impossible. Your conclusion was something you came up with on your own.

              Second, capitalism isn’t the ONLY problem. It’s still a problem. Greed will corrupt any system, but capitalism is a system that openly rewards this corruption.