Dj Khaled is kind of the posterchild for egotistical dickhead, I will never dispute this. However, his skill is bringing talent together and he is pretty damn good at it. He’s more like a movie producer/casting director than a music producer in how he does business. He hears a beat, thinks “Who would destroy on this?” Buys the beat, Makes some phone calls, gets some artists onboard to do a verse, pays the artists for their work, mixes the track or pays a producer who he thinks has skills to do it for him and releases it.
He is the child of Palestinian immigrants and built himself his dream job and is worth an estimated 70 million, have a look at his wikipedia for the sheer number of awards he has been nominated for… Talentless hacks cant do that. Raging egomaniacs with annoying personalities sure can tho.
I am normally on board with the idea of “this person made it to the top of a competitive field, he can’t be XYZ” but in this case, idk man. People absolutely become famous in the music industry while having very little to offer beyond the ability to generate hype/buzz. It’s an industry that basically exists to misrepresent people in positive ways for profit, and there’s an almost endless number of levers to pull and buttons to push to make that happen. Talent and success in that world are just not all that well correlated.
Edit: you just said you don’t even know much about him, so thanks for coming to my TED talk and I’ll now go back to being old and grumpy quietly.
You said it yourself he is very good at generating hype in an industry that survives on hype. He was a flashy obnoxious tool when everyone was wearing Ed Hardy jeans and 3 inch round Ecko watches studded with fake diamonds. He was Mr Miami when the south was blowing up rap wise. He was the right personality, in the right place, at the right time with the right skills and right connections and he hustled.
I know I’m repeating myself saying “I think he is a tool” but that being said, I was really into rap and the scene during the era he had his come up and I know he didnt stumble into success.
Fair enough, definitely will not disagree with you cuz you sound way more informed. I found him (and I guess his era if I’m being honest) too overtly manufactured and obnoxious to really engage with. I do imagine bro worked his ass off, and yea must have been a confluence of factors, many of them his own personality traits and effort. Maybe what irks me is people regard him as egocentric and cocky when to me he seems the opposite, just extremely fragile and fake because he’s hyper-aware of his own shortcomings (and worse, absolutely correct about them). I guess that describes a fair portion of “egocentric” personalities anyway though, thorny and fragile.
Your assesment of that era of rap is 100% spot on. That was a very braggadocious and flashy era leading up to the financial collapse in 08. Dj Khaled was music for nightclubs, it was “gangster rap” for the masses, it was radio play accessible without being edited to death… and it sold.
I dont know the man but I think it was a lot like what happens to a lot of people in entertainment, you have to fake it till you make it. Nobody wants to hear songs about how you’re going to climb to the middle. But eventually at some level of success you need to stop huffing your own farts and show some humility and I dont think he ever has.
Wait, does he not even produce the beats anymore? Wow… His last useful quality. Now all he’s got is bitching out of Hot Ones.
Dj Khaled is kind of the posterchild for egotistical dickhead, I will never dispute this. However, his skill is bringing talent together and he is pretty damn good at it. He’s more like a movie producer/casting director than a music producer in how he does business. He hears a beat, thinks “Who would destroy on this?” Buys the beat, Makes some phone calls, gets some artists onboard to do a verse, pays the artists for their work, mixes the track or pays a producer who he thinks has skills to do it for him and releases it.
He is the child of Palestinian immigrants and built himself his dream job and is worth an estimated 70 million, have a look at his wikipedia for the sheer number of awards he has been nominated for… Talentless hacks cant do that. Raging egomaniacs with annoying personalities sure can tho.
Don’t know anything about the man, but love watching social media bag on him.
“He has no talent of his own!”
Well, he must have something as he got filthy stinking rich in one of the most competitive fields out there.
I can’t speak on his talent but he’s a giant asshole and incredibly insufferable.
I am normally on board with the idea of “this person made it to the top of a competitive field, he can’t be XYZ” but in this case, idk man. People absolutely become famous in the music industry while having very little to offer beyond the ability to generate hype/buzz. It’s an industry that basically exists to misrepresent people in positive ways for profit, and there’s an almost endless number of levers to pull and buttons to push to make that happen. Talent and success in that world are just not all that well correlated.
Edit: you just said you don’t even know much about him, so thanks for coming to my TED talk and I’ll now go back to being old and grumpy quietly.
You said it yourself he is very good at generating hype in an industry that survives on hype. He was a flashy obnoxious tool when everyone was wearing Ed Hardy jeans and 3 inch round Ecko watches studded with fake diamonds. He was Mr Miami when the south was blowing up rap wise. He was the right personality, in the right place, at the right time with the right skills and right connections and he hustled.
I know I’m repeating myself saying “I think he is a tool” but that being said, I was really into rap and the scene during the era he had his come up and I know he didnt stumble into success.
Fair enough, definitely will not disagree with you cuz you sound way more informed. I found him (and I guess his era if I’m being honest) too overtly manufactured and obnoxious to really engage with. I do imagine bro worked his ass off, and yea must have been a confluence of factors, many of them his own personality traits and effort. Maybe what irks me is people regard him as egocentric and cocky when to me he seems the opposite, just extremely fragile and fake because he’s hyper-aware of his own shortcomings (and worse, absolutely correct about them). I guess that describes a fair portion of “egocentric” personalities anyway though, thorny and fragile.
Your assesment of that era of rap is 100% spot on. That was a very braggadocious and flashy era leading up to the financial collapse in 08. Dj Khaled was music for nightclubs, it was “gangster rap” for the masses, it was radio play accessible without being edited to death… and it sold.
I dont know the man but I think it was a lot like what happens to a lot of people in entertainment, you have to fake it till you make it. Nobody wants to hear songs about how you’re going to climb to the middle. But eventually at some level of success you need to stop huffing your own farts and show some humility and I dont think he ever has.
Did he ever? From what I understood, the “DJ” in his name just comes from his time as a radio DJ or whatever.
At least he still has his guitar skills