• hansolo@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    “It’s chemicals!”

    “It’s spider webs of chemicals!”

    “It’s microchips!”

    “It’s sun blocking special metallic smoke!”

    “It’s cancer seeds!”

    • My Mom, an expert on chemtrails
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      The fourth one of those is unfortunately an almost plausible theory. Plenty of people are seriously advocating for studies into Stratospheric Aerosol Injection (SAI) in order to mitigate climate change so that the almighty free market would have more time to fix the problem without any need for systemic change.

      But that wouldn’t be visible to the naked eye :D

      Funnily enough, contrails like all other clouds composed of ice crystals actually warm the planet up by letting shortwave radiation from the sun through while reflecting longwave (infrared), effectively trapping heat. Thcker and lower clouds are more effective at reflecting shortwave radiation.

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        12 days ago

        Well, and “it causes cancer” is as well. But not like… It’s raining down cancer on you. More like jet fuel contains known carcinogens.

        It’s more the direct effects. According to my mom, the chemtrails should have…I don’t know, but done whatever it was supposed to be doing by now. A 30+ year timeline for something causing cancer? So less bad than smoking? That’s the metric?

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    10 days ago

    The really depressing thing about this, and many other “unexplained” aerial phenomena, is that it demonstrates how many people just never fucking look up at the sky.

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    Meanwhile, the government: “That’s fucking stupid. We don’t poison you with the air, that would be inefficient. We have to breathe that, too. We just poison the water and the soil, and if you’re a target we will just pick you up off of the street like a stray cat, we’ve always been very up front about that.”

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      11 days ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

      From the page:

      Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times.

      239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Remind me again why people have no reason to be paranoid? This wasn’t that long ago.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

      These aren’t conspiracy theories.

      Is there something real behind these people’s paranoia and suspicion? Do our government, military, and our corporations inspire trust?

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Is there something real behind these people’s paranoia and suspicion? Do our government, military, and our corporations inspire trust?

        No, the US government, as with every government, does not deserve trust. They are not your friend. They will lie to you, directly or by omission.

        However, all governments are bad at coverups. Chem trails would need to have entire leagues and fields paid off and prohibited from investigating it. Not just in America, but world wide. If America was doing Chem trails, there’s nothing really prohibiting China or Russia from calling it out. They have zero reasons to agree to deals to limit their scientists, as it would be a major shake up in geopolitics. America in that instance could not be trusted with any claims of its scientific achievements.

        I don’t really buy into a moon landing hoax or a JFK cover up. By now, everything and everyone involved would have had to been paid off, including families, scientists, historians, and more.

        You don’t need to be mad at a vague shadow government, you can be mad at the actual government for what they are actually doing. Be mad at Tuskegee and Gulf of Tonkin, not 9/11 with wire bombs and plane holograms.

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          11 days ago

          Of course, a true conspiracy unfolds because the masses are unaware. The masses are gaslit if they start catching on.

          But in the absence of compelling evidence, it’s pointless to wildly speculate about from my perspective.

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              If I was there, if I was involved in law enforcement, if I had access to the crime scene and raw footage and evidence, I might be able to speculate. Armchair speculation is insufficient for me.

              There are plenty of events that raise legitimate questions and concerns - like suspicious, high profile deaths that are immediately ruled as suicide. Everybody is free to hold their own positions and perspectives as far as I am concerned. Question on, sate your concern and curiosity, you’ll get no arguments against that from me.

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      Dude on my Facebook posted a Pic of some repurposed 747 with a bunch of tubes in the cabin with a caption about the chemtrail stuff taking up space. Like, motherfucker, if it takes that much space, how is every passenger jet doing it??

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        Those diagrams and pictures are a disinformation campaign. They show a system that obviously can’t function, so you dismiss the theory out of hand.

        But the reality is that they mix the mind control chemicals directly into regular jet fuel. The pilots don’t even know they are involved.

        /s

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    I had my conspiracy theory ex brother in law explain that chem trails were things Biden added to jets to fight global warming… My response was “shit, I wish that was true!”

    Somehow that wasn’t the answer he was expecting.

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    This reminds me of the time when I was a kid and me and several of my family members went racing out into the front yard to watch the plane that was doing all kinds of aerial acrobatics over our neighbors’s field dropping whatever chemical or fertilizer was in their tanks that day so we were all basically coated in it by the time they were done and we went back inside. Except I wasn’t a kid when it happened, I was a fully informed adult who should have known better and then a few days later we found out it was some kind of potentially dangerous fungicide. But on the plus side I now have 3 penises.

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      11 days ago

      This reminds me of my parents’ stories of running out to play in the clouds of DDT when the spray trucks went through the neighborhood

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    I got back in touch with a friend of mine who who graduated in the same class as me with a B.S. in Physics. When they learned that I’m an atmospheric scientist, their first question was “What’s the deal with Chem trails?”

    Point being, conspiracy theories also infect the educated sometimes.