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Very detailed Lemmy post I wrote about this fuckery and more

Local news article containing the quote about the voter registrar

On Homer Plessey Way, board member Daniel Milojevic stood outside the Bywater polling place in the Press Street Gallery suggesting people try the two Jefferson Parish locations.

He said the local registrar of voters gave the district only 300 ballots per location and told them they could expect about 20 people.

“We had to confirm the number of ballots weeks ago,” he said, before it was clear how high the turnout would be. Milojevic conceded that planning had clearly missed the mark.

As one astute gentleman asked while defending Reddit, and accusing me of spreading misinformation:

If hardly anybody knew, how did turnout exceed expectations within 2 hours?

Because the “expectation” provided by the registrar was literally 20 voters per location (60 voters in total) for the entire fucking city.

  • Slotos@feddit.nl
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    It’s not checks that are the issue, but the scalability of the offensive and the inevitable opaqueness of countermeasures.

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        Now you have to trust the software used to do this, the algorithm itself, and that there was no tampering before the data got stored. Which is something truly verifiable by a very tiny subset of population and even then with full cooperation from authorities. This is the opaqueness of countermeasures.

        Vote counting is not a mathematical problem, but a sociological one. Any „always correct machine” is useless if people can’t reasonably trust it.

        Paper ballots don’t scale - you can’t stuff ballots without someone being present - and are designed exactly in the problem space vote counting itself occupies. As an additional evidence in their favor, autocratic regimes and corrupt politicians are way too eager to switch to electronic voting.

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            You’re thinking about the voting problem wrong, specifically not including all of the requirements

            The algorithm isn’t a black box like you’re saying, it’s fully auditable and decentralized so any fuckery is immediately visible.

            Their point is that even in this system, there is both a small and finite number of people who are skilled enough/qualified enough to perform that audit. I’m not sure I’ve got the math to be able to validate a blockchain transaction by hand without referring to a (potentially tainted) source repo. There’s a world where blockchain voting can solve this problem, but the competing requirements make it the less-optimal solution compared with paper voting.

            Specifically, there are 3 potentially competing requirements for a secure voting system in a functioning democracy:

            1. Votes must be accurately recorded and tallied
            2. Votes must not be attributable to any specific individual
            3. Votes must be auditable for an arbitrary amount of time

            Blockchains, potentially, optimize the voting problem for #1 while introducing explicit exposure in #s 2 and 3, while paper ballots optimize for 2 first, then 3.

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        I’m sure that exists, yes. But you can’t give the voting key to individual voters, because that can be bought. So you’re using the same black-box voting machines with all the same attack vectors (or even worse if they’re connected to the internet).

        The only way to make voting machines safe is to have them print out the ballot, but at that point they’re just very expensive pencils.