• Zorque@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      It used to be that non-combatants weren’t considered legitimate targets. Ain’t progress fun?

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        Americans have only ever pretended to care about non-combatants when it’s convenient. President Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’ so he could pretend his drone strikes were killing fewer civilians.

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            3 months ago

            It was under Bush to justify imprisoning civilians. Bush was all for direct war actions.

            Obama massively increased bombings and drone bombings to pull out combat troops and would do stuff like double tap weddings. To lower the number of civilian deaths, Obama declared any male over the age of 14 to be, by definition, an enemy combatant.

            The person you responded to was correct, though a bit imprecise with their words.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              President Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’

              There’s no grey area here, this is just false.

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                He absolutely redefined to justify killing children. Bush didn’t do that. It was used, under Bush, to justify torture and jailing of adults.

                Obama re-invented it for his purposes. The purpose being to kill children without consequence.

                In my mind, that definitional change is significant enough that he owns a lot of that blame.

                Fucking goddammit, he redefined the word to justify killing children. Why do you defend that?

                EDIT: Removed indirect articles for easier readability, content is the same.

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      More Americans died of Covid than in any war the US was involved since it became a country, yes including the Civil War. The highest death estimate for the Civil War puts it around 750 000 deaths while around 1 200 000 died due to Covid. Most Americans don’t really care about the deaths of their fellow countrymen since, you know, they elected him again.

      Fun Fact (I know it’s not that fun): The number of people that died of Covid approaches the total number of people that died in all conflicts the US was involved from 1775 to 2019: 1 300 000 war dead versus 1 200 000 Covid dead

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    My money is on Iran enacting a terrorist attack on July 4. It isn’t just Iran’s opportunity to enact mere vengeance, but it is a convenient opportunity to have that vengeance become deeply ingrained into the mind of America for a long time to come. Where we would once have celebrated our independence, that celebration would be contaminated by a horrific attack. It’s not just about enacting petty revenge, but it’d be about sending a message for generations. Also, the date is conveniently close.

    Edit: Spelling

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      That would practically guarantee boots on the ground in Iran and a regime change in 3 months.

      Iran’s leaders are dumb, but I don’t think they’re that dumb.

      edit hate to repeat a standard antisemitic trope, but Israel would have a big reason to fake that

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        Typifying a nation state by to it’s goals, rhetoric, and past actions is not antisemitic, but the government of Israel definitely wants you to conflate it as such.

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    Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

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      You voted(or didn’t) for him and are responsible. Good luck, leave the rest of the world out of this.

      Sincerely the world.

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        Fuck you, don’t assume that shit on me. I voted, I volunteered on phone banks, I tried talking to whomever you listen on why this guy was a bad deal all the way back from 2015, and it was never for that walking piece of human excrement.

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          Stand back, everyone. This guy made phone calls. I’m sure MAGA knows better than to show their face in this guy’s neighborhood!

    • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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      Imagine a group of criminals holding a police station hostage. You are not the hostages, you are the ones who are supposed to take care of the hostage takers.