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Drink when R2 appears.

If you think that’s not enough for all 9 movies than add C-3PO.

That should have you well paced for all of them without killing you or being too slow.

I think there’s a wide spread. I’d say that there’s westerns like Brokeback Mountain and Dances With Wolves, where the suspense is more from the dire circumstances and grit that they have to work through in order to survive – few times are their lives gravely endangered. Similarly, there’s the Clint Eastwood westerns where you don’t really expect anything to be happening to that main character, yet they’re still well received. The “True Grit” style Western – someone to protect while you rough it through the hard life.

And then there’s the westerns you’re talking about, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, nearly Magnificent Seven style western where the characters present an archetype and have a fatal flaw that leads to their downfall.

The Mandalorian is more like a Western of the Week TV show where you have the drama of the grit, an undercurrent of hope that’s played off the main characters hardships.

Idk. Din being invincible in the show is seemingly irrelevant to me, and not even supported in the content of the show. The first two seasons definitely have space Western episodes though, even if they might not be the more typical main character on the verge of death style ones.

Eh. I think characters dying as the only stakes is weak writing anyway. If I were using that as a judgement, all of Star Wars is terrible, especially the Clone Wars. Obviously, that’s not the case. Besides, clearly the armor rating is meaningless given the events of the S2 finale – clearly the armor isn’t protecting him from impacts what with his head injury.

We if look to Ming Na Wen’s character I’d even argue that being hit by blasters in New Star Wars is just an opportunity to visit the medic anyway, so Din wearing beskar doesn’t really remove any of the suspense for me.

Maybe he was worried that Luke would go down the same path his father would, so he kept things vague. That was always my take on Old Ben – he wasn’t really guiding Luke to do anything, it was the Force. “Luke, your father was actually a dangerous madman who slew younglings. In fact, is the right hand man, that academy you were joining? It’s Space Fascism, so definitely don’t go and join it to be with your father.” lol

On the topic of the other two – Personally, I liked Kenobi. It has some sillier bits, but nothing IMO that isn’t easily explained (as an example, there’s a scene where young Leia is chased by mercenaries and she kinda dunks on them. People hate it. I think it was a clear example of her Force Sensitivity, so I don’t mind it at all.) Its main shortcoming for me was the villains could have been better and Reva was a bit predictable. I didn’t think she was as bad as the Internet did.

Ahsoka… I wanted to like. It had a lot of potential, most of my issues were that it seemed like they were filming a video game, but since we’re not playing Ahsoka we end up just watching her interact with things we have no meaning for. Other than that, it was decent save for what they did to Sabine, which was just a disgrace to her character. Sabine was disappointing, over and over again. Overall, I think it has been my least favorite of the Star Wars shows as it has had the most visible quirks and awkward shots.

As a continuation of that story it’s pretty decent and I’m excited for S2. But as a continuation of that story, the characters were not as strong as I felt they could have been. Time passed and people change, that’s fine. This wasn’t quite that though.

The mystery is part of the character. He also gets plenty of plot, it’s just not shoved in our faces from the get go. The Mandalorian is one of the best space westerns we’ve gotten in a long time.

There’s a good theory that Beskar has some properties that draw bolts to it. Makes sense

Oh I’ve seen it, I actually like quite a number of bad movies. They have a certain charm about them.

This? There’s a total of 4 hours that we weren’t given - for part one. Characters are setup as a focus then literally never seem again. The overaggressive use of slowmo in all but one fight scene, the complete inconsistency of anything at all whatsoever, from the use of slowmo, camera angles, costuming, accents, weapons & sfx, aliens, character motivations, literally everything. It’s all meaningless and it just exists solely because it can. I’m generally supportive of do what you can when you can and why not, it’s fun. This was… Not fun.

The only merits this movie has are a couple of decent monologues that posit some philosophy. It is completely devoid of meaning and intent, gives no original takes from its “inspiration” down to straight up stealing scenes from SW and Seven Samurai. And then the movie just sort of ends after the most predictable event and the heroes literally rode off into the sunset.

Some movies are bad, be it on purpose or just as a consequence. Many times these bad movies can still have some merit, be it a certain charm or aspect that makes it particularly humorous.

What makes this movie so, so awful is the fact that it’s not trying to be bad. It’s fully ernest in how it presents itself as a science fiction film. Z.S. had full control and still couldn’t make cohesive narrative in 2.5 hours and we have a 4 hour version on the way. For part one!!! For fucks sake!

I have never felt such disdain for something. I finished it because I was watching it with a friend. At a certain point I just needed to confirm it legitimately was that bad.

There are many, many terrible movies that are far, far better than Rebel Moon. Made by people far less prolific than someone like Z.S.

FWIW - I liked the Z.S. J.L. because it’s self indulgent for a reason. This?

It legitimately was the worst movie I’ve ever seen

If only. It was completely taken over by the empire. Darth Vader’s throne is built on Mustafar and the planet was used as a mass grave for the dead from the Great Jedi Purge, as well as serving as the location in which Inquisitors were created, specifically taking force sensitive infants and training them there. It was also used to replace the cloning facility lost on Kamino. A bit after all this Vader is given the planet and connects with a Sith Ghost who helps him build a temple to harness the unique force energies from Mustafar to (edit) try (end edit) bring Padme back to life.

Most of this happens in the Darth Vader comics, however Mustafar does show up again in an arc of Rebels.

(I know this is just meme I just thought it was interesting that there was a fair amount of importance for Mustafar and was used surprisingly well for canon development. We just didn’t get to see any of it in animation/live action)

When Anakin lost to Obi-Wan hadn’t he already descended into Darth Vader?

Yoda nearly had a heart attack during the clone wars, honestly.

that plus war, shit will age you.

To confirm if it walks like the hulk or like Yoda, I mean clearly these are questions we need answers to

I’d appreciate information rather than condescension.

It can be both. It’s also a world with armored bounty hunters and political stakes, so saying it’s only for dwarf space bears is a little disingenuous.

Star Wars is able to encapsulate the inane with themes that struggle with in the real world, only limiting it to just one or the other is antithetical to the very inspirations that it draws from.

With the context of Andor, to make it lighthearted would be a disservice to the deaths of the rebels who made the events of Episode IV possible. Moreover the events and themes from Andor and Rogue One are tonally aligned (would be weird if they weren’t). It’s one of the few pieces of SW that actually did a strong job connecting three sequential events of a story over 40 years later (coming from someone who enjoys 98% of what we’ve gotten), I personally think the reason it was able to work was due to the efforts to remove that halo filter of the force. By Andor not having that tonally lighter feeling to it the measure of success has a different sense. There’s also the morally grey side of rebellion, which tons of SW games cover but rarely done in canon.

I think for all those reasons it’s more than Andor just “trying” to grittify something lighthearted. Rather it’s the highlight of a necessary ruthlessness that it can take to bring about rebellion and that successes aren’t always light.

That’s how I feel anyway, there’s a strong tonal theme for each faction of Star Wars and I think rebels not having the same extent of cushioning from the force that the Jedi do makes for a more compelling piece :)

Um, Damien Lindleof has been in multiple interviews saying that Abrams involvement after season 1 was practically non-existent. I’m pretty sure I remember interviews and a production of that went over the creation of season 1 and he wrote the pilot and episode 3 and that was about the extent of what he did, Lindleof made up the rest with the other writer whose name I can’t remember.

From pretty much all accounts I am not seeing Abrams involvement with Lost past season 1? Where are you getting this?

Abrams was only involved in the first episode of Lost.

There are

You can buy Gwenyth Paltrow’s goop jade egg and you’ll receive it, that doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.

That’s too bad! S1 was the strongest for me but S2 and S3 have been enjoyable. If the space western style wasn’t selling it for you, they do move on from the motif a little after S1, but I wouldn’t push through it unless you’re interested in Mando and baby Yoda.

Personally what I’ve liked it for, aside from the western style, was how they were being subtle with the world building of the sequels. It’s much more effective just being around cloning facilities that we can assume made Snoke and Palpatines bodies than outright pointing and speaking on it and I was glad it wasn’t heavy handed to just try and “fix” missteps from the sequels.

I liked the latest season of Mando it was a pretty good direction forward I feel. Ahsoka has kept up with that pretty well, but the first ep is definitely moving slowly on the wrong things. But episode 2 was really good for the direction

FWIW, it seems that the first episode of most of these SW shows are just trying to get things set up for the things they actually want to write. Mando, BoBF, and Andor seem to be the exception, where BoBF teetered off a bit and Andor stayed strong throughout.

I don’t disagree the shows have had some shortcomings, but overall I’ve actually enjoyed them quite a bit. I do wish they spent a little more time on making the first episodes feel “right” though, as that would help the reception overall quite a bit.

I loved Kenobi even though some people don’t, but I accept the silly sequence of little Force Leia running away from bounty hunter/mercs as just showing Leia’s force attunement. It’s silly but effective since it shows her cunning at a young age.