• kfet@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    That’s not the description of a stampede which would result in killing 100+ people, even if true.

    We will probably never know exactly what happened, as we only have IDF- and Hamas-controlled reporting of it, both obviously heavily skewed.

    But the claim that this is Israeli military simply shooting to murder 100+ people is to say the least obviously unsubstantiated.

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      4 months ago

      Bot the person you replied to. You might be right, but…

      least obviously unsubstantiated

      Better avoid overstatements. That kind of rhetoric on SNS signals a poor debate in the replies to come. And I’m not going to reply to you because I don’t want a poor debate.

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      4 months ago

      This was a crowd of thousands of starving, displaced people, crushed around aid trucks, desperately trying to get food. The IDF, by their own admittance, fired automatic weapons into that crowd. This caused panicked, crushing surges that killed most of the people, that caused the truck drivers to flee, killing more. These were starving people trying to avoid being gunned down by the IDF while they desperately tried to get food.

      Crowd crushes are incredibly dangerous in even normal situations. People die at soccer games when crowds panic, at music shows.

      We dont know how many starving people they killed directly, but they are 100% culpable for these crowd crush/truck escape deaths that resulted from their direct actions. You dont panic a large crowd, especially a large crowd of desperate people, or you will cause deaths.

      Why are you excusing the IDF from firing into a crowd, causing the panic that killed these people?

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        I am not excusing anybody, I am just tired of the blatant propaganda with zero reliable sources.

        What you describe is horrible, and also it is simply not real, but entirely the result of your imagination. No source claims any of this the way you describe it.

        In fact the latest reports describe two separate events, one where the stampede occurred, with no IDF involvement, and another event where there was a shooting at a check point. There is NO way to know what exactly happened from behind the keyboard. At this point all your claims are only the reflection of your beliefs, and nothing more.