• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    If the USA didn’t have such a complicated tax system

    For 95% of the public, its not complicated. Its just getting all the independent pieces of information from different private agencies.

    • W2 from employer
    • 1098 from your mortgage company
    • 1099 from your retirement account firm
    • Prove you have health insurance
    • Prove you have student debts
    • Prove you have a small business and you’ve tracked your receipts
    • Prove you have children
    • Prove you paid taxes to your state

    Once you have all the numbers lined up, its simple arithmetic. Easy for a computer to do.

    But knowing who to ask for all the individual chunks of data is an obnoxious chore that only one organization does particularly well. And that organization - the IRS - won’t tell you the information they have. They want you to guess and tell them what you have, so they can tell you if you got it right or not.

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      7 months ago

      And that organization - the IRS - won’t tell you the information they have. They want you to guess and tell them what you have, so they can tell you if you got it right or not.

      This really needs to be fixed.

      In Australia, the stuff the government knows about you gets prefilled in the tax return form. Not as good as other countries where the entire thing is completed for you, but better than the USA. The form is significantly shorter than the US one.

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        7 months ago

        but better than the USA

        When the bar is “You get nothing. Zero. Goose-egg.” its fairly easy to clear.

        The form is significantly shorter than the US one.

        A big part of the US tax game is giving you a relatively high base rate and then sending you hunting for deductions and credits. One of the upshots of the Trump Tax Cut has been to raise the standard deduction so high that most of those deductions and credits are worthless. So the form is deceptively long. It’s almost impossible to use your Schedule A for anything anymore.

    • aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com
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      7 months ago

      they will definitely tell you, just go online and download your tax transcript – it contains all reported information.