(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      The problem with this is that it assumes Democrats have no agency. Democratic politicians have treated trans issues like those crusty old male Dems who don’t like saying the word abortion.

      Dems have never provided loud and full-throated support to trans issues. Go watch the recent John Oliver video on trans sports. There are very very good arguments on why excluding trans people from sports is incredibly anti-scientific and just thinly disguised bigotry. But Democratic politicians have never bothered developing the talking points to defend trans people, like they have for other core issues.

      Look at how Kamala responded when asked about trans issues. She didn’t provide full-throated support to trans people. Her reply was simply, “I’ll follow the law.”

      Democrats have completely failed to defend trans people. They’ve quietly passed a few state level anti-discrimination laws, but in terms of rhetoric, they’ve completely ceded the space to conservatives. The only mainstream voices talking about trans issues have been the anti-trans bigots. The Democrats have instead just called the whole issue a distraction and hoped it would all just blow away.

      They’re right that it is a distraction, an artificial one concocted by Republicans. But that doesn’t mean they can just ignore it.

      Propaganda works. And if you don’t do the hard rhetorical work to fight it, it eventually does change public opinion.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Propaganda works. And if you don’t do the hard rhetorical work to fight it, it eventually does change public opinion.

        yeah it never works on you, no sir… we’re all a lot better because everyone stood by their principles and punished the bad biden/harris team, yep, so much better.

        those trans people, they’ll be safe now.

        those kids in gaza, I’m sure now that trump’s won he’ll make sure they’re safe.

        Yeah this all punishing those bad bad dems you’ll show 'em.

        stupid fucking liberals, when will they learn their lesson.

        working out great.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 months ago

          Trans people were being maimed and killed under Biden too, nothing changed for the trans people in the red states, violating the 14th amendment under Biden’s watch. Trump won’t care, Biden could have cared and chose not to.

          Kids in gaza were being murdered and bombed under Biden too, nothing changed for them when a blue guy signs off on bombs or a red guy signs off on bombs. Trump won’t care, Biden could have cared and chose not to.

          One is honest in being evil and hating people. It’s in the name “Republican.” The other pretends to tolerate you, and then throws you under the bus come election season to appeal to the greater evil’s voting base, who wants the most evil and won’t vote for a lesser evil.

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            11 months ago

            keep telling yourself they’re the same bud.

            lie to yourself all you want. calling it the same is ridiculous and you know it.

            ya done fucked the pooch on this one so bad it’s going to wreck the whole fucking thing, but hey, you stuck to your convictions, no matter how short sighted.

            gonna block you now, have a wretched life living through the consequences you brought on yourselves.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              11 months ago

              I voted Harris and said Republicans are worse, but sure man, your bubble won’t pop when Trump uses America’s decades long polices domestically. Sorry I acknowledge trans people outside of the month of November every 4 years.

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                  11 months ago

                  YOU would have been better off. The brown people your country genocides? Business as usual .

                  But you’re a coward and you would have gleefully sacrificed them if it mean’t notbhaving to be bothered fighting fascism at home.

                  Sorry your favorite genocider lost, coward

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    11 months ago

    Fight all you want, by all means, bring those in power further left. But at the ballot box come election day, I don’t care if the dem wants to sacrifice puppies on weekends. Guaranteed their Republican opponent has a factory grinding puppies into various consumer products by the millions. And their 3rd party counterpart likely has a greater chance of getting elected to mayor of flavortown than to congress/president (and also still probably kills puppies casually among friends themselves).

    Is this system bullshit? Yup. Is it the one we got? Yup. We need to deal within that reality. By all means, let’s work to change that system, but for the love of God, let’s not shoot ourselves in the foot when our favorite candidate doesn’t stand a chance in hell, or the more likely candidate is blatantly flawed (but still better than the alternative)

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      11 months ago

      Buddy this post is about leftists. You are not a leftist. You’re a left-leaning liberal. Read a book ffs.

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    11 months ago

    This post could actually be the psy-op. Spread the idea that infighting is happening to then create it

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Strawman meme.

    In reality you can agree with someone on a topic but disagree on the execution, and you’ll get called a fascist along with a bunch of personal attacks on your intelligence. Trump has infected everyone, even the left who now have become toxic as well. No ally is good enough, no leftist is leftist enough, and anyone even slightly to the right or even left of you is a “fascist”. This is very much an American problem, and I guess it makes sense how it happened, and they can’t see it from the inside, like us outside of the u.s can