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So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?
That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.
(The Halfway Post is a satire website)
What’s the fucking point in doing satire these days?
We all cope in our own ways. This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda, so… at least there’s that?
This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda
This post isn’t propaganda, though, so it’s not that amazing of an example.
Yeah and if this openly and unabashedly satirical post was still being treated like legit reporting, imagine how people must react to actual propaganda.
Actual propaganda isn’t true, though, or at least it requires an element of misleading in it. If ICE officials aren’t actually concerned about people shooting them and claiming self-defense, then I’ll eat my hat, as the old saying goes.
It’s also not “openly and unabashedly satirical.” You only think that because you recognize the source as satirical. To everybody else, it reads as clickbait.
Clickbait + true statements does not equal an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda.
Can be true, can be as simple as „make you think about that (so you don’t think about this)“
Actual propaganda frequently is true, this is misleading in that it is not actually reporting news, just guessing something is true doesn’t make it true, I didn’t recognize the poster I went and looked it up trying to find a source and discovered it was posted by a very open satire site, and this seems like a really stupid thing for you to be trying to start a fight over.
This post has five words
I wasn’t criticising the satirist, more the world that is making satire impossible to differentiate from fact.
Nah totally, I read it as a similar sentiment to "What’s the point in doing anything". If that was off the mark I apologize. I just meant that we all cope in our own ways, even if some of them are somewhat windmill-tilting-y
Because there’s still plenty of wiggle room. You actually thought ICE officials were afraid of citizens?
In this case, perhaps to put the idea of shooting at ICE cars out into the universe without getting in trouble lol
Not in this case.
Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.
… This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.
You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.
See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.
With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?
I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.
What I mean is satire or not: they SHOULD be worried. Now people may genuinely assume that running over them is the higher survival rate option.
Seems more like just hypothetical unsubstantiated news… 😅
That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.
Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.
Satire is dead. It couldn’t keep up with reality.
“Ceci n’est pas un onion”
Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.
One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.
I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.
My comment was more on the funny side tho. We live in a timeline so ludicrous that satire is having a hard time because the rapist always find a way to one-up them.
Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.
Jury nullification is still a thing.
Yeah but unfortunately you can’t nullify a bullet out of your head.
lol, as if they’d ever let this go to a jury.
Yeah. The rest of them will make sure you won’t be able to attend a trial.
What?
That’s because a lot of people are fucking pissed and in absence of any action by our governments and institutions in place to protect us are on the verge of taking matters into their own hands.
It reveals itself as satire when it assumed US citizens would actively fight the fascists. They are way too lethargic and complacent to ever do anything of the sort.
Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police
That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.
Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign
That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.
What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.
That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.
Which is why I won’t feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance
Time to show them just how fit they really are.
And why thr Geneva conventions exist.
MAGA: We broke society, so now we can point at a broken society as an excuse for violence.
We live in a society
I’m not sure that’s true anymore.
Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.
ICE was the reason why I did not visit the US. Now it is ICE and the unbelievable violation of privacy at the border.
The collection of biometrics all over the world that went from being something you needed at least serious suspicion of to being extremely common and routine for literally everything is just shit.
Exactly this, I was supposed to be in the US for work. I had everything prepared and then this shit show started.
It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.
They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.
Well, they should be worried.
I seriously doubt you’re making it to the jury stage of the trial if you open fire on police
Renee Good didn’t open fire on police and still didn’t make it to a jury trial. When unarmed, peaceful people are executed as though they’re violent protesters, there’s no longer any real reason to be unarmed, peaceful people.
This federal government wants people to open fire on police. This would justify a further police state, martial law, and cancelling the midterm elections that they’re definitely on pace to lose disastrously. Natural causes is taking its sweet time, but even if it weren’t I don’t think the next guy would change a thing unless his owners told him to.
Protesters also don’t deserve to be executed
Agreed, but they’ll try to argue that violent protesters could kill thousands of innocent people, so killing them is the morally right thing to do. Here, they’re arguing that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist that was using her vehicle as a weapon to try to kill the ICE guy, even though it’s blatantly obvious that that’s not what was happening in the slightest.
I’m just saying that they’re escalating. They’re hoping that people either stay home because they’re afraid of being executed just for being outside, or retaliate and permit them to escalate further. And even an extreme retaliation will not eradicate the fascism, so I’m not sure what the right move is now that we’re at this point.
They will escalate regardless of what we do. They already have been.
How’s work?
They got us shooting women now
How’s the pay?
Well there’s a bonus if you’re wanting in
How’s the hours?
We shoot them in the daylight
And then we steal them away in the dark of the night
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible. They make violent revolution inevitable
- JFK, 1962
ICE aren’t police
There is zero ideology gap between cops and ice.
Law enforcement then?
They are not that either.
GOOD.
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions
Noo, people would need to have the balls to actually do it…
Unfortunately this is satire, and not consequences of their actions. I wish it was real though.
We should call it the Good Initiative
Shoot ICE. On sight.
If they’re just shooting random moms in minivans then nobody is safe.
Your constitution means nothing it seems people in power wipe their arses with it and citizens barely defend it handing over more and more freedoms every year. Ice clearly isn’t about that they sold it to you as.
Well yeah that’s kind of how rules and laws are supposed to work.
That’s kind of the entire purpose of having a system of government. If a government doesn’t exist to protect the people who pay for it, what’s the point of it even existing?
Pretty sure the people intentionally destroying the U.S. are aware of that, but it’s always kind of a head scratcher to learn the people that are carrying out their orders have been so busy goose-stepping and commiting crimes on their behalf, they haven’t really picked up on it.
I’m really not sure why I have to explain to other adults that we all benefit as a society from a system that promotes equality and protects the majority from harm and exploitation.
When you help these people in their never ending war on equality, you’re helping to further cement a system of government that enables exploitation and removes any expectation of protection for the majority.
That is what you’re working towards on behalf of a billionaire class. A world where they’re protected by the system, but we’re all expendable, including you. That is what people mean when they call you class traitors. If that term offends you it’s probably because you’re not understanding or recognizing your own exploitation.
You’ve handed over civil rights and civil liberties for the “freedom” to participate in a caste system which protects an overclass you will never be part of. Your sole purpose in the system is to help keep them propped up above the rest of society by enforcing their rules and acting as cannon fodder that serves to insulate them from the rest of the masses.
Mudsill Theory
Sounds like Karl Marx to me, polarity reversed.
Anyhow I like what this person had to sing about it:
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can seeAnd this one too.
That’s why it’s called the Marxism of the master class
The thing is, they view it as a fair trade to support that in exchange for the opportunity to be a part of that system. They might not be the galactic emperor, but they don’t seem to mind being a stormtrooper. Everyone else is just peasants and rebel scum in their eyes.
To them, they’re high enough on the social hierarchy to have plenty of people to look down on, and that’s all they need to feel better about themselves.
True, but they shouldn’t act so surprised when they find themselves thrown under the bus. They probably always will, but again, it’s because they’re too ignorant to recognize their own exploitation.
They figure as long as they’re the ones driving the bus, they won’t be the ones getting caked in the tire treads…
Special snowflake syndrome must be a hell of warm and fuzzies drug.
ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.
