Actors not sweeping correctly when somebody broke a glass or somebody’s ashes were spilled on the floor or something like that is infuriating hahha.
They’re always having some serious conversation with heavy relationship complications, but whoever has the broom is literally tapping at the mess on the floor because they know that the production crew is going to clean it up for them after the shoot, so they, the ac-tors, don’t have to actually sweep the mess into the dustbin.
I f****** hate that.
Drinking from empty cups. The way you hold, drink and move with a cup with hot liquid in it is very different from an empty cup. Whenever I see it it is all I can think about.
It gets me how they always tip the cup far more than they would if they were actually drinking. It depends how much liquid is in there, but you don’t really tip it more than 45 degrees unless it’s almost empty.
Haha, I don’t see empty cups a lot, but I see s***** b******* sips all the time.
They’re like oh f*** the clients are here and take a huge gulp of coffee, but they’re pursing their lips and obviously pushing their tongue forward so that the lip of the cup is closed
Thank you, I’m loving these
Mine has as of my last update. I tried to take a picture, but whatever privacy thing I’m using blanks out screenshotting my jerboa screenshot.
But yeah, what I’m used to is the thing on the right side and then I click it and am answering somebody in one click.
That correct?
Now that option is gone, and I have to click an empty message box on the right side or the post text, and then the post opens up and then I have to click the reply button on the left and then I can reply.
That sounds convoluted, it’s only one more staff, but wasn’t I able to reply directly with one click before?
With your comment button on the right side, you just click that and then reply after that one click right?
CPR. The way they do it with bent arms affects how people think they should do it in real life. Your arms should be straight to get the most power for the least effort. And you’ll need to conserve your energy because you could be doing it for an hour. No show has ever portrayed the length of time it takes.
I always remember the abyss because the
spoiler
resuscitation
was absurdly long for cinematic time.
I know there was another one that did it, but obviously nothing for an hour.
So sometimes CPR takes an hour and that means that you are circulating oxygenated blood through the body to keep it and the brain alive for 1 hour straight until emergency medicine can be applied?
So CPR is deflating and inflating the lungs so that blood is oxygenated and simultaneously pumping the heart to provide blood circulation?
Is that what you mean? If not, can you explain it in more detail? That’s f****** fascinating.
The consequences of surviving CPR are usually pretty serious too. You don’t generally gasp dramatically and then wake up just fine like they do in the movies.
Totally. Oh no wait I was thinking of the paddles, what do you mean?
I understand the risks of broken ribs and stuff but I have never taken a CPR class and did think people gasp dramatically and survive.
Do you mean they don’t just immediately jump to their feet and are totally 100% fine again?
Because I feel the same way about bullet wounds.
I don’t know if anybody here has ever been stabbed or hit with a bullet, but boy does that s*** stick with you.
" It’s fine, it went clean through".
Oh cool! So you only have like three months of physical therapy and crippled ambulation until you can move in normal society relatively unnoticed?
In the movie, 10 minutes later they’re fine and are holding the stock of a rifle to their injured shoulder or injured side of the hip.
Fuuuuuuck off trope
Besides the broken ribs, brain damage is extremely common. Lack of sufficient oxygen to the brain is really not good for it.
No, CPR is only meant to compress the heart in order to circulate blood. You can get a little in and out movement from the lungs (ventilation), but to do that correctly, you really need the bag mask thingy (which you do see One Night using on Lindsay in The Abyss.)
The length of time they spend doing CPR in The Abyss is actually pretty realistic. There are a number of things that you try in addition to compressions and you have to give those things a chance to work before you “call it” (stop compressions).
CPR is several rounds of compressions and shocks with various medications like epinephrine being given depending on what you’re seeing on the heart shock monitor. Length of CPR is usually inversely proportional to the age of the patient. (The younger the patient, the longer a medical team will fight to get them back. This is because losing a kid is obviously devastating for everyone, but also because kids have this amazing tendency to be able to survive things that would 100% take an adult out.)
My bitchy complaint about the CPR scene in The Abyss is that they spend so much of that time not doing compressions. They keep stopping to do other things or to sit around and cry dramatically. Every single second that they’re not doing compressions is a second that no blood is circulating. It’s crazy. In real CPR, compressions only stop when a shock is actually being administered. There is zero downtime on compressions other than that.
(And no, people don’t just gasp and wake up. Typically we just get a pulse and the person remains unconscious, often for days afterward. They usually need a ton of ICU level medical care, if they have any hope of recovering.)
Okay, thanks for responding. I’m really interested in medical processes.
I hear that the defibrillating paddles don’t work anything like in the movies also, that they’re actually meant to shock a chaotically beating, fibrillating, heart into stopping for a moment and restarting it’s steady, normal rhythm and they’re not even used for patients who flatlined, which is how every movie I’ve ever seen uses them.
Do you have any insight on that?
That’s correct. So if you see a flat line there is no activity to reset with a defibrillator.
Btw, in Run Lola Run a guy gets reanimated while being conscious, Lola even takes his hand and has eye contact with him, and he smiles at her.
THAT MAN DOESN’T NEED TO BE REANIMATED, YOU DUMB AMBULANCE PROFESSIONALS :) But the movie is great.
Haha, i remember that.
I love that movie and franka potente, I can’t get upset with it or her for nothing.
It is called CCR (Cardiocerebral resuscitation, or continuous compression resuscitation, or hands only cpr). It is Cpr without pausing to breath. Of the 30 compressions you are suposed to do during normal CPR before you stop for breaths, like 25 of those compressions are just getting the BP high enough to perfuse the brain, then you stop for breaths and start all over. CCR not only keeps that BP up, but you provide supplemental oxygen and a simple airway device, like an opa. It moves enough air to fill the lungs enough to oxygenate what little blood is being circulated.
It is becoming standard protocol for paramedics to do the first 3 rounds (6 minutes) of CPR as CCR as long as the arrest wasn’t airway related (drowning, choking, etc). Not only is it associated with better outcomes clinically, but in the field with limited providers on scene it frees up hands to allow for medication administration and rhythm analysis/treatment.
i seem to recall (from the book) the aliens helped also. they were able to manipulate matter at the molecular level and provide oxygen
Well, this is quite crazy for me, because I read what knows people consider an unhealthy amount of books, but I did not know that this movie was based on a novel.
Which novel?
In the movie there’s no cinematic indication of alien manipulation that I’m aware of.
the book was written at the same time as the movie. it goes into much more detail from the aliens perspective.
seriously compliments the movie, i highly recommend it.
I will absolutely read it on your recommendation, no doubt.
Was it written by a screenwriter? Or by the concept of the movie? Did it come before the movie?
I have so many questions and I’m asking you before I f****** dive into this s*** online, I’d rather get a person’s perspective. Thanks
as a kid it was one of my favorite books.
i think the screenplay came first, and then the same writers wrote the book shortly after with it being released about the same time as the movie.
i love the book because it makes so much of the story make sense… why they are here, what they can actually achieve. how the accident really plays out that triggers the whole movie.
the pressure of the ocean is something they require… they can read humans minds trivially, even after death. they learn a lot about humans from scanning everyone who dies in the sub in the beginning.
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Honestly, people doing doing CPR correctly on camera could save lives. Although I suppose it could also harm the actor receiving the CPR if you didn’t use a mannequin.
I remember in Spongebob he did CPR off camera one time. The doctor said he did it for hours. I thought that was exaggeration, but later I learned it is very real.
Along the same lines, it makes people think cpr is some magical cure that brings people back from death. It is not, it is literally squishing blood through the body manually after the heart has stopped to try and buy time for health professionals to get there to institute advanced life support and intensive care (ie with life support machines) in case there is some reversible problem. The vast majority of the time a person getting cpr stays dead, especially if it occurs outside the hospital. And for the people that do make it there is usually brain damage.
This makes talking about the reality of dnr orders and things tough because people think they’re saying no to some miraculous cure instead of a violent temporizer in case someone is dying of something reversible, and has no applicability to their irreversible disease.
Or when they shock asystole, or when someone wakes up from like 5 shitty compressions and some mouth to mouth. Or 99% of any show ever. Even the few that do it OK are still so very bad.
And it breaks ribs.
Omg. For me is when in a hospital scene, the doctor dramatically pushes the nurse away to do compressions on their on strength…
Jack in Lost just beating a dude on the chest, walking away, then come back and do it again until he revived didn’t do it for you then?
I think this one is pretty common, but whenever there’s a disagreement, argument or debate that could be resolved in less than 10 seconds by one of the characters explaining themself in a single sentence, but instead they say nothing and or get interrupted right when they’re getting to the important bit. I know I know, it keeps the tension going, but the tension is so artificial and convoluted that I can’t help but scream at the TV “just fucking say it!!!”
or get interrupted right when they’re getting to the important bit
The worst part of the interruptions is that they tend to be something that doesn’t keep the person from just finishing the last few words of their sentence, and if it does they could just finish the conversation like 3 minutes later. But no, the moment is apparently ruined and they can’t just accept a short delay to clear up something.
Even worse is when they say they can explain or that it isn’t what is looks like over and over and explaining it would take fewer words.
Movie wife: “You are cheating on me!”
Movie: “It isn’t what you think, I can explain! Come back honey, I love you! I can explain!”
Real life: “This is my sister who is hiding from her abusive husband.”
Roger Ebert discribed this as an “idiot plot”. I don’t know if he coined the term, but i heard it from him first. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_plot
I especially dislike the “There’s no time to explain!” when there clearly is time to explain.
Like, you can spit out “Vampires are real and the head vampire wants to eat my sister” pretty quickly to get key information across. Don’t need to provide the whole context.
Not a movie, but one time in a tabletop RPG one of the players was trying to say “There’s no time to explain!” and the other just wasn’t having it. After two back-and-forths he was just like “If you had explained instead of saying there’s no time, there would’ve been time!” Was really funny to watch that play out live.
Oh, this one is great.
This might be my greatest pet peeve of cinema and television production.
I absolutely hate this.
" No, it wasn’t my mother"
“We don’t have to talk about it.”
No f****** body would say that.
" Oh, who said it?"
That’s the next line of a script in an honest dialogue that isn’t fluffing up a lack of complexity, you pieces of s***.
Thank you so much.
Syringes getting stabbed into the necks of unwilling people is my niche pet peeve.
I’m a critical care nurse lol. There’s no anatomy in a neck to receive an injection. There’s not enough muscle mass, and you’re not hitting a jugular vein without a person’s full cooperation and a helluva lot of skill with IV injections. There’s a nontrivial chance that you’re just going to inject the medication into a person’s trachea or esophagus, or worst case scenario directly into their spine.
Arms, people. Arms are where we inject people who don’t want to be injected. Right through the clothes, if need be.
Peripherally related: Why are all needles used in movies like 2-3 inches long? No one uses needles that large for anything in the real world.
I suppose if one were injecting into the arm of an unwilling person wearing multiple layers of thick clothing a long needle could be helpful, but otherwise it’s just to look menacing.
and so the audience can see it clearly
My medical professional friends scream at movies and TV every time that happens.
Also, livegiving CPR.
I’ll admit this is petty, but you asked lol
It really kills my suspension of disbelief when tech just folds up / unfolds from practically nowhere. Typically in sci-fi, and it’s most often seen with helmets. I get from a production standpoint, it can all be done in CGI and the actor doesn’t have to wear or carry around the prop for the whole scene, but it just gets annoying.
It just makes the tech seem egregiously implausible even if it is handwaved away.
Peeves are welcome.
Tech folding is a huge problem.
I would love to add tech sounds.
Every time a line of text or code displays on a monitor and you hear like a bee boo click click whirl hum while the text is slowly displaying because of delayed projection hahaha, I go f****** bonkers.
Ever since I noticed it in war games with Matthew Broderick. Like why the f*** is his computer beeping? Computers don’t do that when you type into them or when they display text instantly, not after 5 minutes of discreet character generation.
Oh, don’t get me started on tech sounds. lol.
Every once in a while, even in modern productions, you still see a printer on screen, either ink jet or laser, and the sound department gives them the old, dot-matrix “bzzzzzzzzt bzzzzzztt” sound. I may laugh when I hear it, but I do die inside a little.
Oh constantly.
Here’s, the buzzing or chunking is instantly a " Oh, okay, a 70-year-old wrote this movie" vibe.
Edge of Tomorrow and how the suit fits in the pickup truck always bugs me!
Don’t they show her ripping off the backs of the seats when she gets in?
Yeah, but check out how it “unfolds” as Tom Cruise is popping out the top of the vehicle.
Mine is kind of petty too, but it just seems to pop up so much. I hate when superheroes have to deal with a villain that uses the same source of power. Hulk fighting another Hulk, Ant-man fighting another shrinking guy, Iron Man fighting another dude in an Iron Man suit, Superman fighting other kryptonians, Captain America fighting another super soldier, Black Panther fighting another Black Panther dude… Once you notice that you realize it sort of the default for this genre
Yea that sucks. It is a comic trope, but there does seem to be a more universal context within the literature where it’s plausible that another person came across this technology or power (not probable, but plausible in certain situations), whereas in the marvel movies or whatever Ant-Man drops his aunt belt and then anti Ant-Man shows up.
" Hawkeye shot me with an arrow? I better save this arrow above my fireplace and train super intensely for 6 months until I’m on par with a literally impossible level of aiming perfection.
Thank goodness I only got shot through the shoulder and bicep so that I was able to heal in 3 days and then learn everything I ever needed to know about bows and arrows that took f****** Hawkeye 18 years to learn in a Buddhist monastery in an island offshore a country nobody has ever learned about."
Sorry that went on so long, those stories are so absurd.
Yeah that totally sucks.
Thank you.
Iron Man: they are executives at the same company that developed the tech
Black Panther: the bad guy literally just couped the government of Wakanda
Ant Man: the villain is a former business parter of Pym
Dr Strange: they trained at the same monastery and the bad guy trained for longer
I think these fights are boring most of the time, but they’re not implausible. They have plenty of plot justification.
Also the character who copied Hawkeye was a girl who was inspired by his heroism and spent years learning archery and martial arts and still sucked at being Hawkeye when she met him
That’s what made me stop watching the Flash TV show. After like the fourth or fifth person became a speedster it just got boring.
The problem with the flash is that if you power him up to full, there’s basically nothing that’s a threat beyond other speedsters. Between phasing through matter, lightning, and infinite mass punches, and time travel are pretty broken.
I hate when someone takes a deep drag off of a cigarette and then the angle cuts and they never exhale it. It happened a ton in Sons of Anarchy.
It really bothers me when something is supposed to be metal but is really obviously some sort of plastic. You usually see it with stuff like shields or chains or anything that would be heavy.
They can never seem to get the setup right when two people are tag-teaming the dishes. One person is usually just dunking the dishes in the sink while the other person spends 3 minutes drying the already perfectly dry mug. It’s outrageous how often that happens.
Freezing in space. There is no atmosphere in space, and nothing to convect heat. You would freeze VERY slowly (maybe over a week?) as the heat is radiated out. This is assuming you aren’t too close to the sun.
Flammable oxygen. Oxygen and Carbon are both required to burn. One doesn’t ignite the other. Basic combustion is a reaction between Carbon and Oxygen.
Wilhelm scream. I liked it in one movie. The rest it just takes me out.
Missing headrests so you can see the back of the actor’s head.
Yup I’m a huge sci-fi nerd and this is my number one pet peeve in media.
YOU DON’T FREEZE INSTANTLY IN SPACE
TIL 18-36 hours to freeze in space.
The Wilhelm scream kills me.
I instantly recognize it every time and it turns anything into a high school drama play
There’s one example of freezing in space done right. In the finale of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Battle Tendency, Kars gets shot into space and tries to course correct with air jets, but then he starts freezing over, air jets first.
In Phantom Blood, we were shown Dio’s special technique for freezing people by evaporating the moisture on his skin. This is to introduce viewers to the fact that boiling a liquid makes it colder. Kars froze because the moisture in his air jets boiled in the vacuum and became freezing cold. Kars didn’t know this detail of physics because he’s an ancient Aztec.
Spoiling the fucking movie with the trailers…
I haven’t watched a movie trailer in like 10 years and it made every movie experience so much better
Concussions. People get knocked out by a blow to the head or neck? They stay knocked out for an hour or so? They wake up okay?
I slipped on ice and cracked the side of my skull into the corner of a dumpster. I was out for…? It was the dead of winter. In Canada. -30. I couldn’t have been out more than a minute or two.
I was all kinds of messed up for months. I couldn’t control my arms right. My emotions went haywire. I had blinding headaches for weeks.
I still have nasty chronic headaches and memory loss. It happened more than ten years ago!
Knocked out for long enough to wake up tied up in a warehouse? Nah, you died. Buffy? Dead. James Bond? Dead. Sorry.
Yes, it’s pretty established that a) it’s not as easy to knock someone out as movies portray it, and b) someone who gets knocked unconscious is unlikely to wake up and be fine.
Wow, there’s a hell of a story, pretty scary. Thanks for sharing!
Great point about concussions
maybe the antagonist snuck them some sleeping pills off-camera…
I hate
exhibitionexposition. It’s so much more interesting when you show me a thing I don’t understand and don’t explain it than it is when you have a conversation that would never take place in that world because it’s like explaining a sandwich to a 45 year old human being as if they didn’t already know what a sandwich was, despite the fact we were shown the character eating a sandwich 4 scenes ago.If a dude pulls out a gun made of flesh and bone and it’s meant to be normal to the character whipping it out, stfu about it. Just let it be weird for the audience.
You mean ‘show, don’t tell’? Or how characters need to explain their world to the audience (since it is strange to the audience) but it’s normal for the character?
Yeah. I used the wrong word; meant exposition as @Chetzmoka points out.
Exposition. You hate exposition :)
And exhibition games in sports. They mean nothing in the season!
I agree that exhibition is similarly as lame as exposition lol
Shaving. Every single time someone is shaving in any movie or show, they always make a few random strokes on one side of the face, maybe a little on the chin, and then they always stop halfway through. Gets my OCD up. Then to make thing worse, they always wipe up the rest of the shaving cream with a towel and casually toss the towel to the side. Covered in shaving cream. With a half-shaved face. Monsters.
I’m glad you added the second half, I immediately started replying after reading the first sentence that the worst part about shaving in movies is when they wipe off the rest of the shaving cream without finishing shaving, hahah.
Absolutely Psychotic.
Similarly, toothbrushing.
This silliness exists because filming actors is hard. Like how almost nobody eats, in movies. It is a serious and committed choice for an actor to genuinely consume food… because they’re gonna have to do it a dozen times, whilst delivering dialog, and hope nobody (including them) screws up or half-asses it.
And when they do show an actor eating, it’s usually to convey a particular tone. Like Denethor. So: why is the actor shaving, in the first place? Generally the answer is not an answer that requires putting the entire process onscreen. So there’s this shorthand that’s not so much unnoticed as accepted. It’s as much a part of the fiction as the fourth wall. Audiences don’t question how everyone speaks clearly all the time, or how actions occur perfectly framed to a nonexistent camera. We just get the idea that someone is shaving, and ideally derive some characterization from the details of the scene, without having to watch an actor pantomime away every last drop of foam with a shiny squeegee.
You’ll notice a lot more like this in foreign films because you’re not inculcated to their tropes. There’s some jump scares in Japanese horror that become kind of silly when the ghost is literally just wearing a handkerchief over their face. It serves the same purpose as Jacob Marley showing up in a tattered suit.
I hate when production companies dupe people into doing work on a movie “on spec”. For those who don’t know, on spec means that the work is done at a reduced upfront cost with the expectation of a share of profits after release. What the poor schmucks who fall for this don’t know is that no movie has made a profit for production companies in over 50 years. At least not as far as paper is concerned. After a movie is made, production companies have to get it out there. The companies who do this are known as distributors, and they charge the production company to do the distribution. Now for the movie magic, the same company that owns the production company also owns the distributor, so they are essentially charging themselves more money than the movie can ever make to do the job. The legal loophole that they fuck people with is that, even though they are owned by the same company, they are separate legal entities, so contracts with one do not bind the other. The on spec contract is with the production company, but the distributor is the one who collects the money from the theaters, which it then funnels into the parent company. The production company shows a loss on the books, so the on spec clauses never trigger. Look into Life of Pi and Rhythm and Hues if you can find the right articles about what happened.
Oh, and remember how I said that theaters pay the distributors? Those contracts are almost as straightforward as the on spec ones. The standard layout is that the theater pays some percentage of the box office to the distributor for opening week, then each week after it reduces by some fixed percent until reaching 0. The initial percentages vary, as do the reduction, but standard is 80/10 from what I understand. The most abusive I have ever specifically learned the details for was a Disney production, I belive it was the first of the new Star Wars movies, but it was a 99% opening week, decreasing by 1% per week for 4 weeks, then 5% thereafter. Oh, and they also tried to strongarm the theaters into having to fork over 50% of concessions as well, which was the first time I had ever heard of that. Luckily the concessions thing was fought and won by the theaters, but it is atrocious that they even tried. Anyway, that is why concessions are so expensive, because theaters make virtually 0 money off box office sales since the bulk of a movie’s gross revenue comes from opening week box office. Do your local theater a favor if you genuinely enjoy them existing, buy a fountain drink or a popcorn. Those are the highest profit margin items on the menu and they do actually need the money.
Holy crap I had no idea how much theaters were getting f***** over, thanks for posting this. Fascinating!.
Number 3, and the first article linked in it are good for deeper dives and the linked article may have more updated or detailed info than I am recalling from my reports I had to write for my MA in VFX. There is a LOT of fuckery that really should be quite illegal.
Understood, thanks. I’ll read it.
Finally makes sense why so many theaters die when the overhead is so relatively low.
Damn, this sounds like mafia work. We need some laws in place
Yeah, I have studied all aspects of production, from writing all the way through to the audience watching it. There are strong laws on the production side because SAG and WGA exist and have pushed hard for legal protections against the studios and production companies prioritizing money over safety. Unfortunately on the distribution side the theaters actually have some very good anti-corporate laws working against them. What needs to happen is essentially a unionization of theaters so they can collectively bargain against the distributors and be able to say “good luck with getting your movie our there, because it won’t be on a single silver screen with those terms.” Unfortunately that behavior falls under the collusion and price fixing laws, which are spectacular and need to be there, but probably should be amended for situations like this.
This is the kind of thing I came in to talk about too. Here in New Zealand we don’t have guilds that can stand against Hollywood industry and a right-wing government actually changed our labour law in favour of Warners and Peter Jackson so that they could call production crew and cast “independent contractors” (with no security or benefits) instead of employees.
The Actors guild protested but someone working at Weta at the time told me animators were “encouraged” to counter protest in support of the law change “if you want to keep your jobs”.
That is appalling. I knew some of that, but not the full extent. It is disgusting. The on-set unions in the states are extremely strong, and I am so thankful for that. The whole post production industry needs a global set of unions. I would like to see the same for on-set. Someone needs to keep these jackasses in check.
Yeah, they really do.
I really lost respect for Peter Jackson over that whole fiasco. New Zealand was already giving Hollywood production companies massive tax breaks so there was no need for it, but he actively helped them stiff the local crew.
Weta’s a bit toxic anyway but it’s a widespread problem.
Same. I was really disheartened when I heard all of the negative stuff for living in NZ from a past coworker. It had been on my short list of “gtfo my dystipian nightmare” countries, but it sounds to me like it is nearly as bad, just in different ways.
Going to the cinema to see a movie, and they show a trailer FOR THAT EXACT MOVIE.
(Although that doesn’t really fit the prompt. Still annoys me a lot though)
Wait’ is that a thing?
I can’t remember which movie, but this happened to me with a comedy and it spoiled all the good jokes. I wish I could remember which one but I was pretty pissed upon leaving
They did it for both Dune movies where I went.
I’ve got to reply to myslef just in case it doesn’t get mentioned, but when somebody getting shot at hides behind a wooden door or a piece of furniture and the bullet doesn’t go through the sofa or wooden door.
Oh cool! You flipped over the coffee table?
You should be totally fine while machine guns rain down ammunition on you.
Lmao yeah, just duck behind that 1/4 inch plywood to stop the bullets previously shown to dent metal
