I’ve just finished my first week at a new job. I like the job, but it’s the first time in several years that I’ve had relatively standard 8 hours a day, 5 days a week as my schedule. The last time I did was in 2019 or so, and then I went and got back into graduate school for the interim.
Now that I’m back to standard hours, the commitment of time and energy seems to be quite a lot, more than I remember from prior ft experience(It could well be that this job is actually mentally demanding, whereas my prior full-time job was pretty brainless) and I’m not sure how I will make room in my life for anything else.
I like the job I’m doing, and I don’t feel as if I’m being unreasonably pressured at work (Boss even said to go out of our way not to work overtime, and it’s a salaried position so I know they’re not trying to skimp on hourly pay), so I guess I’m mainly wanting to ask how the rest of you full-timers do it.
And does it get easier to manage as you start to get used to it and make a routine?
Maybe it feels like quite a basic or rudimentary to ask… But these are things I’ve forgotten in the interim since last working 40-hour weeks.
So okay here is what you do.
You get up, go to work, spend all day there, go home, stay awake too long, sleep too little, do it 5 days then try to catch up on lost sleep in the weekend.
This way you will get as little out of all your free time as possible, and eventually get depressed and/or have a mental break.
Good luck!
Don’t fret about it. It only lasts another 40 years or so.
I’m 15 years in paper office space and already having a bad neck how can older gens stick to a same spot for so long.
For me, it was my hips. I really do think sitting for long periods in front of a computer is really bad for your health. Good luck to you. Get lots of exercise and take as many breaks as you can get away with.
You don’t have to do the same job the whole time?
No true I did change but in this business culture, especially family run there’s a core culture loyal to the company. Coming in as a job-hopper implies you’re a temp help. Even though everything is on friendly terms, the smoke break spot is the spot for gossip. :-D
The whole work from home drama during and after COVID regulations shown how many people actually dread the fulltime office space on a long term.
I still remember my first managers’ sons swimming lesson updates and skiing in the Alps slides like a trigger memory when I recognize the striped pastel blue blouse tucked in formal loose pants.
I was an engineer. I worked with four different companies, but the work was substantially the same, working in front of a computer.
There’s culture shock and then hopefully you settle into the idea that this is your life now.
This is how it worked for me. Followed by just fucking get up. Tired? Slept like shit? Don’t want to go? Just fucking get up and go, I don’t want to be late or lose my job, I’ll be homeless. I don’t recommend this attitude as you’ll burn yourself out but it’s how I get up.
My problem is everything else. Where do you find time to tidy the house, clean, do laundry, shower, brush your teeth, now the lawn, etc, etc and then have energy for hobbies?
This is the part I can’t wrap my head around. I’ve been a productive member of thr workforce for over 20 years but the idea that this is what the rest of my life consists of horrifies me.
I should mellow this a bit.
Right now you’re experiencing some degree of culture shock so that’s going to take ~6 months before that is fully settled. “This is weird.” “Yes, that’s something people experience in a variety of contexts”.
But outside of that in the long run you really have to think about what’s important to you and carve out time for that or you will be lonely and miserable. Something with regularity. I play board games with friends once a week. Sometimes I can’t make it and they do it without me. But there’s still way too much of my time that ends up being me staring at Lemmy or the TV, thinking that I really should <some chore>. And you can end up like that whether you are single or in a relationship. School was simpler.
School wasn’t simpler. It rewarded you for efficiency and intelligence by returning time back to you for completing the work quickly and correctly.
There is no reward in the corporate world. You slave away endlessly and the reward is you either get to slave away more or sit there for your 40 hours + commute.
Personally, I find that if I work in a day, then I’m drained. One great thing I was able to do was find a job that has longer hours, because working 8 hours and working 12 feels the same to me, but now I get 2 extra days off. With 4 days off I can have a recovery day where I do nothing, a productive day where I catch up on life’s demands, and 2 days to spend however I choose.
I went from 3/4 twelves to 5 8s and it sucks ass trying to do anything after work. I have 6 ish hours to do anything. I used to have two days off in a row during the week plus 3 day weekends every other. It sucked working weekends and getting home later.
Nah man, it’s 50 years of this and then you die
You ain’t kidding. Looking forward to that final break.
Im still hoping to get good enough at drawing to be adopted im as a live-in hermit artist by some rich furry, so I can live out my life with no societal expectations /j
Exactly, and think of the value your work generated for someone else!
I can’t speak for everyone, because I fundamentally believe that the increases in productivity due to technology should have been applied to flexibility for the working public instead of pure profit for the capitalist owning class. But for me, sometimes I can’t stand another MOMENT of my work shift, and other times I find myself lost in the work for 14 hours before I even realize it. It’s purely a function of what you’re working on and what it means to you. Or doesn’t mean to you.
When last I changed jobs (going from full time in house software developer to a consultant working for a firm), and every time I’ve changed assignments since (same firm, most times same client but different teams), I’ve been absolutely knackered. It can even happen once you’re back from a particularly long vacation.
Sometimes for a week, sometimes for up to a month.
It does pass though. You’ll find you have more energy as you get settled. Remember, new people to relate to, new things to do (even if it is similar tasks as previously) does take up a lot of mental energy even if you don’t feel like it does.
Cut yourself some slack, give your mind and body time to adjust for a few weeks. Remember to eat and drink right, and afford yourself some extra down time. In my experience you’ll be acclimatised soon enough.
Congrats on your new job!
I’m not sure how I will make room in my life for anything else.
That’s the neat part - you don’t!
Try not to think too hard about how most of the evidence points to shorter work weeks being better on pretty much every metric.
Or that most of the “return to office” mandates are counter productive cruelty.
I think I saw an article that claimed most office workers in the UK do like 3 hours of work a day, and the rest is puttering and looking busy.
Our system is stupid and it’s stuck stupid because of people. It’s not physics. It’s not biology. Like there’s not much you can do to fix like humans need to eat and sleep, but the workday is just made up.
I have a kid who’s just starting full time work out of college. I’ll tell you what I told them: you’ll get used to it. You will eventually settle into the habit and it becomes routine.
However, there will be tough times where you need to work hard to motivate yourself to go to work. Those happen.
What works for me during those times is the same that works for me exercising (which I hate): one step, one mile, one day at a time. Tell yourself it’s just one more day to the weekend or to vacation. Have something to look forward to.
Burnout also happens. What works for me there, is to draw an absolutely strict line between work and life. You need to fight for your work/life balance. Maintain friendships outside the office.
When you’re not working, try to do something not related at all to work. If that’s working on improving your health, that’s even better. A healthy body and healthy mind has more energy. Do literally anything except working or thinking about work. If you can’t turn it off, practice setting boundaries until you can.
Finally, and this surprised me as I realized that all the stupid corny stuff we do in the office: luncheons, raffles, TGIF, “just another day in paradise”, and that, are coping mechanisms. Play along, but don’t get sucked into a negativity spiral. Humor can be a great stress reliever, but watch out for HR watchdogs.
This entire thing is so tragic.
Yes, it is. But it’s the reality of being a working stiff in America today.
I have absolutely no doubt that you are doing everything in your power to prep your kid for the reality. I dont mean to disparage you in any way, I’m just sad that we’re here. Hard work alone isn’t enough anymore.
No offense taken at all. I just agree it’s a sad state of affairs.
I don’t mean to be a doomer and I do try to give my kids more than a black and white picture. I’m not a parent who tells them to just suck it up. I support them every step of the way.
But I do try to keep their expectations realistic. I think it’s fair to let them know that what they see in glossy college ads isn’t typical.
Finding a job you actually like can be hard. Working 40 hours a week can be hard. But eventually you will manage it. It’s not glamorous, but it pays the rent.
Usually you have to play the cards you were dealt while you look for better opportunities. Few people can afford to be out of work for a long time. I consider myself very lucky to be able to sit here right now and discuss work/life balance on Lemmy, rather than trolling the Internet for jobs.
don’t get sucked into a negativity spiral
I got sucked into one by talking to a new negative coworker and didn’t even realize it.
I don’t. At least not anymore. I used to have a 40 hour, Monday through Friday job, but I had to find something else or I would’ve ended up having a breakdown. I’m autistic, and my life has been a series of periods of trying to be the person society wants me to be, failing, and then spending several years burnt out and unable to function before repeating the whole process. If I hadn’t been able to live with one of my parents during those burnout periods I would’ve likely ended up homeless.
I’ve found that I simply cannot work 5 days a week. Even 40 hours over 4 work days will eventually burn me out. So I found a job that offers 12 hour shifts, and I work weekends. I pick up one or two shifts during the work week when they’re available. I average 32 hours a week.
It’s unarmed security, and it works for me, even though it doesn’t pay well. I’ve just accepted that I will be poor, and my life is much better this way. Capitalism has brainwashed us into believing that money is more valuable than time, and there’s something wrong with you if you can’t match what is expected of you.
That’s the neat part, you don’t.
Well, I enjoy my job, is a big part of it. But I also commute by bike, which gives we time to decompress and switch gears, pun intended, between work and home.
I was about to ask OP how they commute. I have 3/5 home office, but I go to the office practically every day because I commute by bike, so going to the office is an excuse to ride my bike.
Some of us never get used it it, because there’s nothing normal about it.
