What sickens me is I know there aren’t any aliens. I mean, there might be aliens somewhere out there in the universe, but there is no trace whatsoever of any of the many, many hallmarks that interstellar travel and planetary visitation would leave in our solar system. None. There are no aliens. But so many people don’t know this, and they want aliens to be real as badly as I do, and they’re gonna fall for this shit.
As one of the many, you mind educating me on those hallmarks?
Sure! At this point in our scientific knowledge, we have a pretty solid grasp of the various avenues by which travelers might get here. This includes the slow but realistic ways, the theoretically possible ways, and the ways that would be tantamount to magical as far as physics is concerned. If there’s an unusual EM burst within many light years of here, let alone within the solar system, we detect it. If it happened in the past, we have a very good idea of what traces it would have left in the proxy data of the solar system. We can even detect gravitational waves now, again even at great distances. If something in the solar system moves across our view of the other planets or distant stars, someone notices. These are all different signs that interstellar drives might leave, and we got nothing there.
I could go on to the signs of planetary visitation that we also have none of, but frankly I don’t believe in teleportation, let alone at interstellar distances, so I assume any aliens on Earth had to get here some less magical way. And since there’s no sign of that, it’s a moot point.
Would the average person know this? I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just wondering since everything is so censored on the internet nowadays and papers have to go through filter after filter. I’m just huffing copium here but I’d like to think there’s something happening out there but the average person like you and I just don’t know. It’s not like we can see it for our selves.
The average person can access telescopes powerful enough to observe objects transiting across planets or stars, or radio telescopes that detect EM signals. As for the gravitational wave detectors, while they aren’t exactly open to everyone, the kind of drive signature they’d detect is at this point completely theoretical. The closest thing to a feasible warp drive design that we’ve come up with still requires a material with negative mass to build. We have no idea how to get/make that, or if it’s even possible for it to exist. There’s pretty strong theory to suggest that it can’t.
You don’t have to trust authorities to tell you whether or not aliens have come to Earth. It’s just the unfortunate truth that the more things you take note of and consider, the less likely it seems.
Well, warp drives might not be on the only thing available. Solar sails? Generational or cryogenic ships? Heck, even hitching a ride on an asteroid. Or something even beyond our comprehension. Considering the drive signature is theoretical, what would we even look for? The ‘wow’ signal was a radio signature but from where? Could be a natural phenomenon, but then again, it could be artificial. There’s so much possibilities out there.
Solar Sails, Generational and Cryogenic Ships: We’d be able to see the craft slowly approaching us. Covering it up would be increasingly impossible as it approaches us because as the comrade from before said, telescopes are readily available technology. Even if there was a coverup of an international scale that had the support of every single institution, it would require dealing with thousands of amateur astronomers and utterly subverting scientific peer-review.
Wow: The Signal has never been repeated. It could genuinely be aliens who sent it by accident. Other more sensitive radio telescopes didn’t detect it though. The discoverer believes that while it isn’t impossible that the signal is extraterrestrial in origin it could also be some nonsense done on Earth. The signal band is protected but it could be interference from a close-by frequency or someone with a powerful transmitter making the funniest pirate radio broadcast ever.
Asteroid: If they were trying to communicate with their folks back home, there’s a good chance we’d pick it up. Furthermore, maintaining a livable space station on an asteroid will generate waste heat and such. Our astronomers would probably notice such an anomaly.
Possibilities aren’t plausibilities. Like, I don’t know if you know what “not a single thing ever, that can’t be better explained than to say it was aliens” means. I’m not going to trust Donald Trump to deliver on this one, considering the facts.
Even without identifying the hallmarks of an interstellar visitor, the so-called evidence of alien intervention is only impressive when analyzed under the scope of lean systems manufacturing. There is not a single ancient wonder of the world that couldn’t easily be replicated with basic tools, simple machines, massive workforces, and lots of time.
Basic tools and simple machines: everyone has some concept of the stone age and can understand a demonstration that long, straight, round wood = wheel && wheel = massive work potential.
Massive workforces: put a child in a room with blocks, what do they do? Try to figure out how tall they can stack the blocks. Have multiple children? Eventually, they figure out that working together can create more robust towers. Humans like to build up. Put sand castle tools on a beach? Children and adults aggregate to build the most impressive structure and moat. It’s human nature. When there’s little else to do, people like to see if they can make big get bigger. The native workforces build themselves, and where gaps exist in teams, there’s always slavery in the banana stand.
Lots of time: each pyramid of Giza took around 20-30 years to create. Compared to all of recorded history, that’s nothing, but compare it to NYC skyscrapers. The Empire State Building took just over 1 year to build; if people were told that it would take 10, or even 5 years, they would have fucking revolted. 30 years is long enough to enter the workforce, and then retire, or die, or whatever. That’s a long fucking time to build one building. Imagine that your parents started working on a pyramid the year you were born: by the time they were done, you’d already be experiencing an existential crisis from your dead-end job and worrying about your parents’ mortality.
I’m curious too!
I guess no leftover orbiting stuff for starters?
Imagine figuring out how to travel faster than light and then crashing into the biggest shithole in the galaxy.
It’s even funnier if you see those alien files and videos.
Nonono you don’t underatand, these are military professionals who were puzzled by these pictures and videos. These are the best of the best and they can’t explain it.
Huh, tyese guys are fucking stupid, just like the rest of the country it seems.
Aliens aren’t real else ICE would have disappeared them.
Release the Trump/Epstein files
HUDSON Is this going to be a stand-up fight, Sir, or another Pedo-hunt? GORMAN All we know is that there's still no contact with the island and that a pedo president may be involved. WIERZBOWSKI A what? HICKS (to Wierzbowski low) It's a Trump-hunt.At this point the only way the public would believe the government’s been covering up the existence of aliens would be like:
“Leaked documents suggest billionaires and high level government officials attended ‘Epstein-style’ parties on board alien spaceships.”
Unless… They’re the same files!
Epstein probably had weird alien sex parties too.
OK but whats actually in the alien files? Its not Like we made contact with any. I would know, I’m with Torchwood.
ask ghislaine she knows.
Is it aliens though? I see a lot of white dots in the sky. Unless I see an actual alien then “coolcool”
What I’ve come to realize is most of these by definition is just unidentified objects. That’s it. They let the culture around that concept do the legwork.
Black and white video of a plastic bag would look insane. I think it’s called the black knight? Was some strange object seen and raised interest until it was realized to be a blanket or something that looked weird out in space with the sunlight hitting it differently than in our atmosphere or whatever.
You mean that UFOs are actually just Unidentified Flying Objects? :O
Obama told the truth. There really isn’t anything in the way of aliens.
I’d really like to be wrong though aliens are cool.
Have you seen how are/were the indigenous people treated by colonizers across all history?
I really hope there aren’t aliens :D
Bots and bootlickers on here would be arguing with you that aliens came here because they wanna be colonized and become American or Chinese or some dumb thing humans say to justify their abuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite_conspiracy_theory
Yeah it was a thermal blanket from the mission that took the photo
I see a lot of white dots in the sky.
Those are called “stars”.
Third time? Was anything new released this time?
Like a question asked in a news headline the answer is no
Aliens that can travel between stars and hide from all civilian sensors but not the government. Government catches them.
And who don’t want us to know about them but are incapable of really hiding.
“Don’t you get it? Epstein was an alien. That’s all that’s in the files. That and how many dicks Donald Trump sucked to get where he is today. It wasn’t just Bubba. BTW, Bubba was my dog’s name.”
todd blanche says they cant be released because he made deals with kung fu lady.
