Folks.
If you ever catch yourself describing how you want to torture someone to death, I want you to stop and take inventory of your priorities.
Look. I am not a pacifist. Some motherfuckers need to be removed from positions of power by any means necessary, up to and including violence.
That being said, should we not focus on restorative justice and rehabilitation? Why create unnecessary suffering in the process? The argument that things like the death penalty act as a deterrent doesn’t seem to be borne out in the evidence. What good is served by torturing someone, even if they’re the nastiest son of a bitch in existence?
It is important to make sure we don’t let killing for sport seep into our ideology. Using violence against people is not something we should take pleasure in, let alone fantasize about. History has given us plenty of examples to draw from here; once you make a policy out of sadism, the group of people you use violence against only grows.
Also, porn is fine in moderation (like everything else) and can be made totally consensually, you terminally online freaks.
Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you’re going to die. So they’ll talk. They’ll gloat.
They’ll watch you squirm. They’ll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.
- Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
GNU Terry Pratchett
Someone close to me was repeatedly raped by one of he neighbors from the age of 4 until she was 8. He did it to her sister and to his own daughter as well. For this the government gave him 6 years in prison. He was out before she graduated high school. She has a lifetime of shit to deal with because of his actions and I’m sure the other two do as well. There is nothing I wouldn’t do to make that motherfucker suffer. I don’t care if it’s “good” or if it deters anyone else from doing it. There’s no rehabilitation for someone like that or restoring what he took from them.
So voluntary watching of porn bad, mandatory watching of torture videos good? Or is this satire?
This is not satire. Niiwa-Angel is a pretty active TERF, who also routinely posts about wanting to kill trans women.
One really weird thing that stands out to me is
hard labour…picking litter, picking produce, clearing mine fields, cleaning up Chernobyl
Ok, so picking vegetables and cleaning up rubbish; is somehow equivalent to clearing explosives or cleaning up nuclear contamination.
So strange.
Interesting that all the assumptions of torturing producers and consumers are geared toward men. As though women don’t produce or consume porn.
Or as if gay porn wasn’t a thing. It is funny when you realize how anti-men people do mental gymnastics for this kind of stuff, yet on the same breath state that sex work is real work, when pointed at OF “models”, or anything that is lucrative for women.
Putting aside the psychotic torture fantasies of these unhinged weirdos, could I please give perspective?
I’m anti-pornography. I’m also a former sex worker. I don’t think that no one should consume porn, but you need to realize how horrific the porn industry truly is. It’s why I think people should consume amateur stuff, OF, and independent makers. Big name companies are abusive, full-stop. There are, of course, exceptions with smaller stuff, too, but if you knew what these women and girls AND many boys and men go through for the sake of porn, I hope you would be horrified and disgusted.
This is not a moralistic, prude, “Christian-viewpoint”-thing. Far from it! All I’m saying is that if most of y’all can be furious & boycott N×stlé for their human rights abuse, y’all should also look into ethical porn consumption.
This is where I am at. Sex work was dehumanizing and traumatizing. I was recorded once during an assault. There’s a lot of problematic attitudes towards sex that make the industry damaging and dangerous.
It’s just obnoxious that loons like this are so common in anti-porn spaces.
Yeah, I know. Drugs to keep the dick hard. Drugs to keep everything not sensitive enough. Drugs to keep going for hours on end. Badly ventilated rooms that begin to smell too much like bodily fluids. I’ve heard the stories of a few cameramen who started their career filming porn.
No wonder most “professionally” made porn always looks so fake to me.
Personally, when it comes to porn I like drawn or animated much better.
Well… sure. That.
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And rape.
Horrific, merciless, torturous rape. And it can go on for days.
And they essentially own you. They often make sure you’re in such dire straits that they can take advantage of that and force you to do things you never agreed to because they know you’re desperate.
And they record it. And they’ll sell it. And you get to live with knowing that potentially thousands of people get to see you being tortured and get off from seeing you absolutely suffer at your lowest of lows.
The drugs just sometimes help to dull the pain. And make you forget. Sometimes.
Amateur porn tends to be way better anyway. The ladies look way less plastic and sad, the moans aren’t usually horribly overdone, and it’s just hotter in general.
100% OF, Chaturbate, or whatever. Only ethical way to go. The actors are fully in control of what they’re willing to do, and for how much.
Mostly, there are cases (Colombia for sure to my knowledge) where girls work at call center-like facilities operating OF, Chaturbate, etc accounts and hand over a cut to the owners of the facility.
Best case, it’s a contractor studio where girls with little to no money/access to the Internet and decent hardware can make a bit of money. I’m sure there are worse cases and would rather not think about how people twist that model into slavery.
Right… because women don’t consume porn, right? Phew.
They also don’t produce it either apparently.
OnlyFans is just propaganda. Just like Australia, it doesn’t exist.
New Zealand literally doesn’t exist on about half the world maps. It’s like the map-makers get to the bottom right corner and go “ah, that’s good enough”.
Edit: I didn’t realise, but there’s even a Wikipedia page about the phenomenon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omission_of_New_Zealand_from_maps
That’s why Sealand is the only untouched place in the book the Chrysalids
Sometimes, we’re happier with that
Just don’t think that we’re a part of Australia
That’ll get you fucked up
these people can’t figure out why no one sits with them at lunch
Very normal.
what the fuck
This person’s definitely got some trauma she’s not dealing with properly
I only consume drawn porn. IDGAF if the artists torment their own creations, and considering how often Tumblrinas put their blorbos in the horrors I think they are also fine with it.
… and now i finally understand what blorbo means. i mean i still had to look it up but this prompted me to look it up and this time it actually clicked
This is written by people that want to stop you getting your jollies at watching people fucking, and get their jollies at watching people being dismembered.
One of these things is not like the other.
Hey can you put a CW on this please? Really didn’t want to read that unprepared :/
I am not a gambling man. but I would bet everything I own, these two are into some freaky shit.
Weird TERF that is into transformers.
I’m sure Donald Trump never watched porn. He only hanged a bit with Epstein. And grabbed them by the pussy. And paid to sleep with a porn actress. But surely he never watched porn.
also in the back changing room for miss America, shit he said about his daughter, his guilty sexual assault of e Jean carrol, sued that husband’s can’t rape their wives.
just a god loving jesus fucking christian, what.
These are just the same type of extremists as the Christian fascists roaming free in the US right now. Gotta control people’s naughty habits, we can’t just leave people to have their fun, now can we?
It’s the same type of people who claim that any penetration is automatically rape, doesn’t matter if the girl likes it, wants it, it’s rape, I tell you!
These people are insufferable
they have no clue what percentage of people are porn consumers, huh?
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Human population growth is already plateaued and in the most developed nations it’s already net negative. in order to sustain break-even (human) population levels, there must be no fewer than 2.1 offspring born, on average, per {gestational reproductive caste specimen}<irrespective of masculine or feminine configuration>.
The human population of South Korea’s last reported birthrate is 0.78.
In japan, 1.26.
In the united states, 1.66.There will be so few able bodied humans extant to perform basic upkeep in 20 years that fundamental infrastructural systems will not JUST be crumbling to dust from sheer neglect as they are now, but actively self-destructing from sustained systemic cascade failure.
There will be so few able bodied humans extant to perform basic upkeep in 20 years that fundamental infrastructural systems will not JUST be crumbling to dust from sheer neglect as they are now, but actively self-destructing from sustained systemic cascade failure.
Pretty doomerist of you. I’m honestly not concerned about declining populations. Better for the environment, and we’ll figure out the rest through straightforward economics.
I hope so too. One of the key problems you have is taking care of the elderly and infirm with less and less of the younger generation around. It’s a hard one to solve economically without being like “I guess just let them die”.
As the size of the working population declines, labor will reallocate itself from less necessary positions to more necessary ones. So the proportion of the population that would have worked at McDonalds, for example, would work in nursing homes instead.
You’re right and that’s exactly where the problem arises. We’re seeing projections in some places where the need for care workers of various types looks like it will be larger than that countries workforce can bear. I.e., at current levels, there wouldn’t be anyone to work at McDonald’s but then also not enough to work in more necessary roles, basic government, infrastructure, etc.
You think putting fries in a bag is the same as providing cafe to the elderly? This is some DOGE level planning.
there are many valid reasons to dislike porn and the industry around it, why are all anti-porn communities so fucking weird?
between this and nofap im not sure who i want to hang around with the least honestly (and anyways these spaces are almost always filled with transphobes)
Because while the porn industry might not be great, suppressing sexual desire like they do is unhealthy.
To be human is to want sex. Everyone will at some point think or desire sex. Generally, unless you’re a real rare case, you’ll get horny once in a while.
I’ve spoken with a few people like in the OP in the past, and they yell this anti-porn rhetoric as if they’re trying to loudly drown out their own sexual desires.
