• Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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    As someone who grew up in Dubai I can tell you it is slavery.

    Also as someone who grew up in Dubai and remembers the ‘Dubai! The city that cares!’ Ads on the radio I wonder if those fuckers considered that woke or not.

    Also the children’s magazine Majjid added a female police officer to their police comic some time in the 2000s. I don’t remember when, but apparently the Hitler stache wearing sidekick goof cop is still there being a moron (yes…)

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        I looked up the wayback machine. I did find some stuff, but I am on my phone and I need my real machine to properly get them. I’ll report back in several hours. Stay tuned!

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        Looks like it’s Majid with one “j”. Found this page; which seems to show the character OP mentioned, Lieutenant Maryam. Can’t find when she was first featured—wikipedia just says she was added later.

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          Yes you even have the Hitler stache guy in it.

          Damn… they REALLY changed their art style since the 90s or even 2000s.

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    a materialistic hellhole built by slaves in a desert is apparently a metric for success

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      Would it have been better if built on stolen indigenous lands? say perhaps in North America?

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        Whataboutism, what a fucking classic move, with the downside of showing literally anyone with slightly more of a half of a braincell that you don’t have any other real arguments. 👍

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          Whataboutism is such a cope. You would rather your hypocrisy not be called out.

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    And the oil. Everything in Dubai is funded by oil either directly because of subsidies or indirectly because it brings people to a region that is otherwise essentially an enormous empty desert.

    Do you think people would go to las Vegas if there weren’t casinos there?

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      Oil makes up 30% of UAE’s GDP and an even smaller percentage of Dubai’s: only 1% according to this Wikipedia article. Dubai is one of seven emirates that make up the UAE. Dubai has existed prior to the discovery of oil as a fishing and trade port, and has been rich before due to pearl diving. It was a major source of pearls before the Japanese invented cultured pearls.

      For thousands of years, most seawater pearls were retrieved by divers working in the Indian Ocean, in areas such as the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, and in the Gulf of Mannar (between Sri Lanka and India).[10] A fragment of Isidore of Charax’s Parthian itinerary was preserved in Athenaeus’s 3rd-century Sophists at Dinner, recording freediving for pearls around an island in the Persian Gulf.[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_hunting

      The following map shows Bronze Age trade routes in purple:

      Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/roads-of-arabia-presents-hundreds-of-recent-finds-that-recast-the-regions-history-127324646/

      There are good reasons to hate the UAE such as hosting US soldiers and normalizing with Israel. No need to lie about their history and origin.

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        Yeah, I don’t think pearls or trade is making Dubai that rich anyhow any more. Especially after the Suez and like you said "cultured pearls.”

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          Neither is oil. The experience of losing pearl money and going poor for some years before oil was discovered is what motivated them to plan moving away from oil decades ago.

          They are rich from trade though.

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            Trade in what, that makes no sense… Oil and gas exports make up 85% of its economy

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        Once a city gets big enough it can be self sustaining from the people that live there and tourism even if manufacturing or resource extraction dies.

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      Do you think people would go to las Vegas if there weren’t casinos there?

      This is an even more apt comparison because the Mafia started setting up those casinos out in the middle of the desert so they could do so in a place where they could control all the laws

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      That first photo is a very famous one of the Paraisópolis favela and the Morumbi district in São Paulo. (Source)
      The second photo is of the Naya Nagar neighbourhood in Mumbai’s Dharavi area. (Source)
      The third one is, however, actually what you purport it to be. (Source)

      I imagine you’re not trying to deceive people and I agree with the points you’re trying to make but please make sure that you check your sources before spreading info

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        Fuck, now i feel bad. Really Cant trust the internet these days.

        I changed it up and included the one picture i could find that appears authentic but because that picture of mumbai was actually labeled dubai i really dont know anymore.

        Thanks for pointing it out.

        I also found this one but its the same source as the mislabelled mumbai picture so i cant trust it.

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      okay, so if I want my country to become successful, I should establish slavery and start massacring children in Sudan. Got it!

      brb, making Switzerland into a world power!

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      Liberals told me Joe Biden isn’t guilty of the genocide in Gaza because he personally isn’t in charge of Israel. By the same logic, the UAE’s support of the RSF in the Sudanese Civil War doesn’t mean they are guilty of the war crimes the RSF has committed.

      Personally I believe both are guilty. Who supplies the weapons and funds and who commits the crimes.

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    You mean an oil state that is destined to run out of their sole economic value of oil in a few decades.

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      You are in for a disappointment then because their economy is not oil based. Oil makes up only 1% of the GDP of Dubai a lesser share than some Western European countries, and the US and Canada. For the UAE as a whole, i.e. Dubai plus the 6 other emirates, oil makes up 30% of their GDP.

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    Slavery as in actual people owning others as property or more like slave wages? I always thought it was just oil.

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      They bring in workers from Nepal and Bangladesh etc, and take their passports and then stuff 30-40 into a little apartment with no ac. They charge them thousands for the privilege to come work in Dubai and they have to live there until they pay off their debt

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      Hey, that’s unfair to magicians. The whole point of stage magic is that you are purposefully suspending disbelief in order to enjoy an entertainment show. Of course magic isn’t real, the magician knows it, everyone in the audience knows it. That’s not the point. The point is to relive childhood wonder via escapism. At the end of the day, what the magician does on the stage takes time, practice, dedication, skill, knowledge, showmanship and ingenuity to pull off properly. All feats to be celebrated and admired. Screaming how the trick is done ruins the experience for yourself, the magician and the entire audience. Like cheating at board games, or heckling a comedian, it’s a bad faith transgression into the social contract of a show.

      What this POS refers to in Dubai is causing human suffering at a massive scale, it’s not an well meaning or heartfelt illusion. Calling it out is a protest. It’s not equivalent at all.

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    Well, we can’t deny that the silencing the opposition (like wokists) help to maintain a slavery society. So both are actually right. But one is a shitty fascist

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        The lack of wokeness in Dubai may be one of the condition for it’s slavery system to exist. Both actors are reading the event from their point of view: a woke one, and a fascist one

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    They are both correct, only one of them is worth listening to though.

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        Even if the oil is only 1% of GDP recently it was still 50% of GDP back when they were building all of their ports, airlines, banks, and hotels. They’ve also proven as recently as 2020 that they can flood the market with so much oil that it dips into negative cosr per barrel in other nations like the USA and Russia.

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          Well paid professional native Arabs and foreign experts because it’s a notoriously dangerous and sabotage prone industry?

          You’re talking about an industry where you can throw a water bottle into a chemical vat and kill everyone in the building or loosen a valve and set an oil rig on fire lmao.

          Slaves under the kafala system are used in domestic duties, construction, and service (or “service”) jobs. Not jobs that require significant trust and knowledge.

          You need well treated wage slaves that think they’re free for those.

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          And cleaning the compounds, being nannies, groundskeeping, chauffeuring, tutoring…