Not legal in Canada. Your legal name must use Latin characters only. This is a sore point for indigenous people.
Did the Romans not use line breaks?
Blank spaces arent characters by definition as they’re the space that allows the letters to exist
Hello my name is JohnDoe. My name only contains Latin characters, no spaces allowed.
The Romans also had spaces in between words
If elected president my first order of business will be to make all birth certificates fully unicode compatible.
Easy,
John\nDoeProbably have to escape it so it will work properly: John\/nDoe
\nalready is an escape sequence, consisting of\, the escape character, andn, the code that is responsible for the new line. Together they form an escape sequence.This person unicodes
I have an apostrophe and it’s super annoying as some companies see it as a SQL injection hack and sanitize it.
So I’ve received ID with Mc%20dole or they add a space in it. Or I’ll get a work email with an apostrophe but I cant use it anywhere because sites have it disabled. And I’ve missed my flight because I changed my ticket once to add the apostrophe and the system just broke at the gate.
Worse yet many flight companies have “you will not be able to board if your ID doesn’t exactly reflect your details” but their form doesn’t allow it. Even most forms for card payments don’t allow it even though it’s the name on my card.
you will not be able to board if your ID doesn’t exactly reflect your details"
Do they care about an apostrophe though? I can see any punctuation being a problem.
I had to convince people to let me on board a plane because my name contain a swedish letter (å). Their computer system translated it into “aa”, which then didn’t match my passport.
That one I can actually see, having an extra letter that bdoesn’t match. Dropped punctuation or symbols (whatever the flair is called) though personally I wouldn’t care.
%20 is encoded space if I remember right, so even then they were already incorrect
It sounds like maybe they sanitized the apostrophe to a space and then encoded it
Always worth posting this classic.
There’s also the version with examples if you want to know exactly what and why it breaks.
And the git that collects all of these in one place, if you want to really nerd out.
This is going to be bobby tables isn’t it?
Edit: It wasn’t?!
Also relevant: https://www.wired.com/2015/11/null/
… why are you putting an apostrophe in McDole? The O-apostrophe in Irish names is an anglicisation of Ó, eg. Ó Briain becomes O’Brien. Mac Dól would become MacDole/McDole.
Mc’Dole is what they said, not McDo’le.
Yeah fuck this guy for spelling his name the way it was given to him what an asshole
Probably some bureaucrat decades ago making an incorrect assumption that passed down through generations. Happened to my family. No Irish roots whatsoever, yet somehow we ended up with the annoying form-breaking apostrophe in our ‘legal’ name just because it begins with the letter ‘o’.
“Oscar??? Surely, you’re mistaken. I hereby decree your name to be O’Scar!” ~Arsehole circa 1937
Yep also happened to my family. There is a y in my family name, but that’s very uncommon in the Netherlands, my last name is of French origin. So some bureaucrat changed it to a Dutch y which is an ij and there was no time to correct it since my grandparents had to catch the boat to flee the former Dutch colony. Now my last name is constantly pronounced wrong. I’m probably going to change it in the future but in the Netherlands you are not allowed to change your name except for a few exceptions. And applying for a name change cost a lot of money and you won’t get it back if they reject it. So I probably have to get a lawyer to do it.
Yeah, I’ve considered a name change myself. Decided not to bother as it would mean every time I need to prove my identity to a government organisation I’d need to provide additional change of name documentation.
Government is hard enough to deal with as it is without adding an extra thing that needs to be assessed.
I really can’t even begin to properly explain this because it’s just so many layers of intuition. No, you absolutely cannot have a line break in your name. That’s not a letter. That said, I’m fully prepared for someone to give me an example of some writing system that uses line breaks for unique purposes apart from spaces.
Chaotic neutral response: A line break is just white space.
Most languages use white spaces
I want the char 8 that makes a beep.
There are a frightening number of systems that don’t allow “-”, which isn’t even an edge case. A lot of people - mostly women - hyphenate their last names on marriage, rather than throw their old name away. My wife did. She legally changed her name when she came of age, and when we met and married years later she said, “I paid for money for my name; I’m not letting it go.” (Note: I wasn’t pressuring her to take my name.) So she hyphenated it, and has come to regret the decision. She says she should have switched, or not, but the hyphen causes problems everywhere. It’s not a legal character in a lot of systems, including some government systems.
It boggles my mind how so many websites and platforms incorrectly say my e-mail address is ‘invalid’ because it has an apostrophe in it.
No. It is NOT invalid. I have been receiving e-mails for years. You just have a shitty developer.
worst thing is, the regex to check email has been available for decades and it’s fine with apostrophies
Well, and remember: If in doubt, send them an e-mail. You probably want to do that anyways to ensure they have access to that mailbox.
You can try to use a regex as a basic sanity check, so they’ve not accidentally typed a completely different info into there, but the e-mail standard allows so many wild mail addresses, that your basic sanity check might as well be whether they’ve typed an
into there.The regexes are written to comply with RFC 5332 and 6854
They are well defined and you can absolutely definitively check whether an address is allowable or not.
Ugh and that happens a lot if your email domain has an even slightly unusual TLD too.
And you’d think a simple solution is just leave out the hyphen when you put you name in, but that can also lead to problems when the system is looking for a 100% perfect match.
And good luck if they need to scan the barcode on your ID.
Then the first part is interpreted (in the US, anyway) as a middle name, not as part of the last name. I did run into a recently married woman who did that: dropped her middle name, moved her last to the middle, and used her spouse’s last name.
More commonly, places that don’t take hyphens tend to just run the two names together: Axel-Smith becomes AxelSmith.
Programmers can be really dumb.
My mom didn’t hyphenate, but she does include her maiden name when writing her full name, after her middle name. It never even occurred to me that that’s uncommon.
As someone who’s mexican I encounter that more than one would think since I have 2 last names and it gets weird sometimes since I also have a middle name.
I have come across a shockingly large amount of people who not only have a hyphenated last name but also have a hypenated first name! Dealing with every new computer system is like a new adventure
Unix or dos format?
Anyway, you probably need to put a backslash before it to indicate line continuation.
But wouldn’t it be better to use something more traditional, such as <br>?
HTML is more traditional than
\n?
asking questions like this is how i found out that one of the allowed characters in names in my country is ÿ, which is fine in Latin-1 but in 7-bit ASCII is
DEL.This sounds like it would create a whole list of fun and irritating edge conditions for some poor bugger to debug. Love it.
If someone else has to debug the problems caused by a parent naming their child with a special character, does that make the parent the bugger? 🤔
I can tell you that buggering is not how you become a parent.
that’s amazing! Aren’t codecs fun
What about an open bracket? (
) Found Satan
( it will be fine with enough upvotes
Teehee )
Downvoting in order to bring it below @whynot’s comment.
( 😀
“We call her Carrie, because of the carriage return.”
You can also try to give the child NULL as middle name for additional fun.
someone tried that with their license plate, it turned out well: https://www.wired.com/story/null-license-plate-landed-one-hacker-ticket-hell/
edit: archive link
He is being too nice. He needs to get a lawyer and sue that shitty company for harassment and whatever else.
ETA: The US isn’t overly litigious. We are under litigious if anything.
I just realized that the shitty software on the other side of the divide is casting
nullto ”null", which absolutely explains that issue. What a clusterYeah, I love to rag on languages with weak typing, because of the potential for a bug, but seeing it play out in reality, directly with user input, that’s certainly something else.
shudders in NodeJS
they should have just used rust smh
Yeah, this is his daughter
Am I allowed to include sql command words such as drop table in my child’s name?
Simmer down, Bobby
Just noticed that the listing for ; DROP TABLE “COMPANIES”; – LTD has been redacted by the government website‽
Is it missing an apostrophe and a dash? Or they registered the wrong name?
Anyway, the use of quotes seem to have backfired. I blame Excel.
Apparently they didn’t include the single quote at the beginning because they wanted to hint at the exploit without actually triggering it.
(and Lemmy seems to combine two dashes into one)
That’s easy, just call it Jhon\nDoe
John\0Doe will fuck with all C (and C based derivatives) software that touches it.
Nah, it will end up simply as “John” in the database. You need “John%sDoe” to crash C software with unsafe printf() calls, and even then it’s better to use several “%s”
C and C derivatives will be fine unless they’re fucking up encoding.
Which rarely, if ever, happens. Especially with US software.
With an address in 's-Hertogenbosch to help people who are lazy about escaping.
Always sanitize your Data inputs.
