• Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
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    Some additional social constructs they may be more sentimental about: gifts, allowance, summer vacation, breakfast, lunch, dinner, doors, privacy, the internet.

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    Borders are a social construct. Yet there are people killing each other about it.

    Your company is a social construct. Yet it provides you with work and money.

    Money is a social construct. Yet your kids still want their allowances.

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    “Very good. That’s exactly right. That also includes early bedtimes, no electronics, and double servings of vegetables. All social constructs that I can establish any time you want.”

    😊 🫴🏀

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      Arguments like these don’t work with kids. Let them experience themselves what is best for them. And have spare socks ready in case they change their mind afterwards

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        Sure, if that’s a reasonable option, but letting the kid hurt themselves isn’t always practical. Letting the kids find out ‘messing with the pot of boiling water is bad’ the hard way, as an example, is not what I would consider good parenting.

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          I think it’s pretty clear they’re referring to uncomfortable stuff, not dangerous stuff. Obviously don’t let them do dangerous stuff.

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            Exactly. Always protect your little ones. It is okay if they experience negative consequences, as long as it doesn’t harm them.

            Trying to drink from a glass of water and get fully soaked is okay, even if the experience is not entirely positive.

            Touching a hot oven is not okay. Here you have to protect them. The best you can do is try to explain why it is not okay to touch it.

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        Even if the argument doesn’t persuade them at the time it still makes sense to point it out to them so that they are (hopefully) aware of it later.

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          Fully agree. Always verbalize your thoughts and intentions. Give the kids the ability to learn.

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      Ok but wearing shoes is a social construct. People didn’t wear shoes for thousands of years before shoes came along and they were just fine and full of blisters.

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      I don’t know what the social aspect is apart from how the socks appear, but this isn’t why they exist.

      Edit: Damn. Some of you are threatened by not knowing what a social construct is but really want to argue about socks instead of asking DDG so you can understand wtf is going on before leaving a comment.

      I’d be proud of this shit show, OP 🤣

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        I love when people say “ackchyually you’re wrong” without offering an alternative.

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          Replying to wrong comment?

          You’ll have to explain otherwise, since it makes no sense based on what I said.

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          if you didn’t wear socks then you’ll have to wash your shoes daily or risk getting something like a yeast infection of the foot or athletes foot.

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          Warmth, protection, hygiene.

          If you were born the only person on earth, you would eventually have something like socks on your own accord. This is function, not social. They wouldn’t be Xmas themed though, since no society exists to have invented Xmas and to show off your socks to.

          Social constructs are, by definition, ideas or concepts.

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    Next time the kid asks for an allowance, say that money is a social construct

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        See, I dunno about that one. I have a very strange and almost primal urge to feed kids. I think it’s generic programming.

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          It took me a while to learn to control my rising angst when my son started deciding he didn’t want to eat much some days. Had to learn to trust what he’s saying and play it cool with bargaining with him to try things he’s decided he suddenly doesn’t like and eat just a few of the key food groups he hasn’t eaten before deciding he’s full.

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            Same, there are few things more stressful to me than when my daughter doesn’t eat. Learning to be okay with a sorry dinner is a process I’m still going through

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    “You’ve made a correct observation, now please provide an argument why the social construct of x should not be adhered to. X is dumb and I don’t wanna is not sufficient.”

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          That’s just dumb.

          It’s dumb to shoot yourself in the foot or jump off a cliff.

          Don’t do dumb things.

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            Both examples are similar to anapodotons. They include an implicit thesis. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot because bullets do way more damage than movies let on, your foot will likely never work right again, and even if it does you’ll have endured months of easily avoidable pain and suffering. Don’t jump off a cliff because you’ll likely die and, even if you survive, you’ll have to endure a lifetime of debilitation, pain, and suffering, that could have been easily avoided.

            These are also similar to thought-terminating cliches and tangentially related to mondegreens. Anapodotons can be insidious. Fluent speakers unfamiliar with the phrase can tell there’s more to it and, since the general meaning can be implied through context, folks avoid the awkwardness of admitting their ignorance (something we should all be more comfortable with - but that’s a separate discussion) and miss out on the nuance of some “common wisdom”.

            A bit of common wisdom is that “common sense isn’t common”. These cultural and psychological quirks manifest in our languages are part of the reason why. Not shooting yourself is a great example because for most people this is an obviously stupid thing to do and, yet, hundreds of people accidentally kill themselves via negligent discharge every year and thousands more are maimed. How often do we believe “don’t shoot yourself” is sufficient advice when, in reality, proper safety training is required to keep that person alive? How often do those hearing the common wisdom believe they know all they need for that cliche to work its magic?

            There’s a lot of value in being aware of these linguistic traps and avoiding them when we think to do so. Like being the child that chooses to stop perpetuating generational trauma and abuse. We can choose better words, better phrases, and stop expecting that other people already know what we take for granted.

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    Something being a social construct doesn’t mean it’s not real, or ignoring it won’t negatively affect you.

    Laws, money, etc. are all social constructs.

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      And, while it’s good to challenge dumb social constructs, you should pick your battles. Nobody can fight all dumb social constructs at the same time. Is wearing socks really where you want to focus your energy?

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    This would be a great time to remind him that we live in a society…

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      Haha, I’m just picturing a dad saying, “so is your mom and I fucked the shit out of her. Now go put on your socks.”

      Edit: stupid autocorrect. stupid me for not noticing.