• ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    2·
    6 months ago

    Computers have been dumbed down and simplified for the masses. When I was a kid a computer did not cooperate until you raised your voice.

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
    2·
    6 months ago

    I think Zoomers need a generational divide in their generation, tbh. In my experience, older Zoomers are intelligent, capable, motivated, and largely leftist. For some unknown reason though, younger Zoomers are ignorant, prudish, too easily contented, and weirdly conservative. I have yet to understand what happened to cause the divide, and I can’t point to any stats or evidence to support this belief, but anecdotally I have noticed this trend within my own life and spheres of influence.

    • Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee
      0·
      6 months ago

      For some unknown reason though, younger Zoomers are ignorant, prudish, too easily contented, and weirdly conservative. I have yet to understand what happened to cause the divide,

      The online manosphere/tradtube spent the past 10-15 years raising these kids while their parents fucked off. That’s what happened. These are the kids who made people like Andrew Tate famous, and made Joe Rogan way more relevant than he has any right to be. It’s a great lesson in why people need to pay more attention to the media that their children consume.

      • Vespair@lemm.ee
        1·
        6 months ago

        I agree with this, but what made this different then our generation or early zoomers? I was raised online as a house with an internet-connected home PC in the early-to-mid 90s with two parents who worked until night; there were grifters and proto-manosphere groups then and I’m sure moreso for the early zoomers, so I have to assume there was either some change in the methodology behind the delivery in these messages or, more likely, some change in the parental oversight, but I can’t identify exactly when or what

      • kameecoding@lemmy.world
        0·
        6 months ago

        That, and it’s unsurprisingly connect to the piewdiepie fascist pipeline thing, Helldivers popular as fuck, Warhammer 40K having a renessaince, I see plenty of shorts about how boys want to die a heroic death, that’s a fucking staple of fascism

        This is such a good video on this stuff, how young kids get sucked into fascism layer by layer https://youtu.be/pnmRYRRDbuw

        https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

        • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          6 months ago

          Most of the reasonably intelligent people playing Helldivers know full well that it is satire with a side of sick sarcasm.

          If anything it’s antifascist indoctrination on a grand scale.

    • superkret@feddit.org
      1·
      6 months ago

      Gen X could write a program that’ll make a floppy drive’s loading noises play the Imperial March.

    • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      Hahaha its funny each time that happens.

      My uncle is GenX and way smarter than my millennial ass. They paved the way for child free poppin off and being tech savvy with a normal tech free upbringing.

      Anecdotal I know. But always funny how self centered us millenials can be thinking were the last normal generation.

  • tantalizer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    6 months ago

    The amount of my students that wrote the whole email in the subject line is crazy. At first I thought it was a mistake or something. But there are sooo many…

    They also don’t know what a file browser/explorer is. As soon as the download notification is gone, the file doesn’t exist anymore.

    Giving files proper names? Unheard of!

    • SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
      0·
      6 months ago

      As soon as the download notification is gone, the file doesn’t exist anymore.

      That seems to be how Android literally works though.

      • real_squids@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        5 months ago

        If you get an actual file explorer it’s fine. I’m using a fossilized asus one because I got used to it years ago.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
    1·
    6 months ago

    We got a new kid around 19 working at our office for processing data and I hate how true this is. The amount of times I’ve had to say “No, you have to double click to open folders” is entirely too many. Either that or “You have to actually right click on the icon you want to copy you can’t just click anywhere on the screen.”

    • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
      1·
      3 months ago

      We are getting this teached in 6th grade what country is this from? Edit: Įn 8th rudementary python.

    • krashmo@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      Fuck me I’m not ready for that. You expect it from the old people but I might have to leave the room if a young person asked me something like that.

    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 months ago

      The amount of times I’ve had to say “No, you have to double click to open folders”

      That’s a real problem when you’re used to Kde and have to use a windows machine.

      (Why is this damn thing so slow ? Oooh, right, double click)

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    6 months ago

    I can:

    • Accomplish damn near anything from a command line
    • Write machine code
    • Remember a fairly broad swath of special character altcodes without looking them up
    • Disassemble damn near any computer or other machine, and stand a good chance of putting it back together

    But also:

    • Use modern programming languages, including object oriented paradigms
    • Actually read what is on my screen and comprehend it, including error messages
    • Understand and operate any arbitrary interface without having to have it explained to me by rote

    Behold my mixture of skills, and tremble.

    • TheEntity@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 months ago

      Can you summarize this in a vertical video? I stopped reading after the third word, I’m here for memes, not to read a damned book!

      • PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        1·
        6 months ago

        Depends, my browser has mostly taken over as my pdf viewer and I think it lacks the functionality but if I were to install a cracked copy of Acrobat Pro or PhantomPDF then that’s like a 2 click operation.

      • Harold@feddit.nlEnglish
        0·
        6 months ago

        You just made me realize the Zoomers are actually much closer to making Warhammer 40k a reality. IT engineers are like Tech Priests to these Zoomers.

        • mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org
          0·
          6 months ago

          If you’ve never read it Vernon Vinge a fire upon the deep had a type of programmers in the future known as programmer archaeologists. The tldr is nobody wrote new code just dug up old code and bolted it together. I used to think that was silly, after llms lately and dealing with interns I no longer think of it as fiction.

          • Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org
            1·
            4 months ago

            I’ve always viewed programmer archaeology is just trying to understand your old code or the team you are working withs old code and also trying to understand the why it was done this way.

            I think AI coding is a programmer archeologist based on your definition, and I think I may start using that now.

            • mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org
              1·
              4 months ago

              I mean it’s kinda both, I just thought the idea a bit preposterous but as time goes on that book gets closer to reality.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1·
    6 months ago

    in today’s edition of “why are the kids I raised so damn incompetent?”

    i long for a day where people understand that it’s not the ipad kid’s fault they were given a tablet at age 2

  • ganbramor@lemmy.world
    1·
    6 months ago

    The number of people in this thread stumped by the “rotate a PDF” comment, even what it means at all, while a smartphone has been 95-100% of their “computer” usage in their lives.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    0·
    6 months ago

    Me: Behold!

    *quickly presses Control+V

    Classmate: Woah! How did you do that??!!!

    True story but as a millennial teaching another millennial in college.

    • dick_fineman@discuss.online
      0·
      6 months ago

      Former boss: How do I make my computer run faster?

      Me: you could install more RAM.

      FB: Oh do I download that from the internet?

      Me: …no, it’s hardware…you have to open the computer up and physically put it in there.

      FB: I should have known that, I majored in Computer Science

      …I was fired a week later because she “felt threatened”. Lol.

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
        1·
        6 months ago

        I had that happen after I told the IT manager who always showed up drunk that his flash drives weren’t working because he couldn’t expect to buy an 8 pack of 1TB flash drives of amazon for $30 and that he was at worst handing out viruses.

        I also told the interns to demand full time positions for doing all the work and not be taken advantage of so that didn’t help with the HR director.

  • ramsgrl909@lemmy.world
    0·
    6 months ago

    I am genuinely having a hard time with my Gen Z employee. I have to go through everything step by step each time and it just seems like nothing sticks. I even create documentation for him and he just can’t follow it fully.

    I’m truly baffled and any advice is welcome.

      • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        So much fucking this. So many people these days are straight up just useless at their jobs, but companies and managers tend to fall into some sort of toxic positivity bullshit and it’s just so hard to give negative feedback to someone notoriously bad at their job somehow. An advice would be to just keep it honest and expect some sort of improvement, otherwise they may try their luck somewhere else.

        • ramsgrl909@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 months ago

          I was giving him positive reinforcement his first year (honestly thought it would work with him to reinforce the good things he does), this year is the brutal truth year.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        01·
        6 months ago

        So many people do not deserve jobs.

        That’s kind of gross… Maybe they don’t “deserve” the job that they have, but they deserve jobs.

  • WolfmanEightySix@piefed.socialEnglish
    0·
    6 months ago

    Are they the same generation whose parents said “they’re really good with computers …they go on the iPad all the time”?